Talk:Golden snub-nosed monkey
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Chinese characters
[edit]It has been criticized that this article contains many Chinese characters. Those that already have articles should be deleted according to WP:Manual of Style (use of Chinese language)#Insertion of Chinese characters, and for those that don't, we should see if there are articles. I thought of doing that, but then I realized that this whole list of place names is not very helpful to begin with. Who would look up each link to get an idea of the habitat? Ideally, we would have a range map. I could create one; I don't have experience with that yet, but I've been thinking of creating such maps anyway. For doing that, it would be most helpful for me to keep the Chinese characters for now, so I can find the locations on the map. One thing that made me hesitate creating such maps is that when someone asks for them at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop, they never provide sources. This article is no better; in fact, someone already called out the lack of sources two years ago. But why should we hold that article to a higher standard than all other range maps? In short, I'm not sure what to do about it now. What do other editors think? — Sebastian 18:09, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- First, we could check IUCN's redlist. It usually has a range map that we can use to make our own from, and verify if the range information given in the article is valid or not. Second, we can immediately move the Chinese characters out of the article with an edit summary as a bookmark, and post a link to the last version of the article with the Chinese characters included here as another bookmark. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you - I just found that, too: via the link http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/19596/0, which has been in the article all along. It links to a detail map here: http://www.iucnredlist.org/apps/redlist/details/19596/0/rangemap I'll see what I can do with that. — Sebastian 18:56, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
- This is the link to the latest version with the Chinese characters. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that, without discussion, all Chinese characters have been removed from this article indiscriminately. I am not happy about this, as the characters do contribute to the information provided here. It stands to reason that, among the people reading this article, many have an interest not only in the animal, but also in China. For those who are interested in China, Chinese characters add a nuance to the article that is now lost. Chinese characters have a wide range and rich history of meanings. (E.g., "丝" in the name of the animal does not mean plainly "hair", but might be more literally translated as "silk". However, that would be too literal, since it is also used for other thread like things.)
I am tired of the removing editor's relentless war path against any and all Chinese characters, but I'm not going to edit war with them here, since it seems no one else is interested in this topic, and I have better things to do with my life. I will, however, add a link to the IUCN range map, which should prove helpful to the interested reader. — Sebastian 20:44, 19 April 2010 (UTC) (I may not be watching this page anymore. If you would like to continue the conversation, please do so here and let me know.)
- Oh well. You did not read what I said. But you aren't watching now, so the point is moot, even though I told you on my talk page when you were watching that, that that was what I had proposed before. So yes, there was discussion. Please don't color things incorrectly. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Copyrighted images and WP:NFC
[edit]Attempts have been made by Dockinel to add copyrighted images from ARKive. These have been removed from the article. Please do not add copyrighted images to the article per Wikipedia:Non-free content (WP:NFC). Because other images of golden snub-nosed monkeys are available on Commons, I have flagged these images for deletion. – Maky « talk » 14:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Taxonomy
[edit]Although it's a somewhat trivial matter, the story behind the specific name "roxellana" is of interest. Roxellane was a woman who was somehow involved with the man who named the species. I read the story long ago but I've forgotten the details. Wastrel Way (talk) 12:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Eric