Talk:Golden Cue

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Date	Process	Result
May 14, 2010	Articles for deletion	Kept

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 2, 2010.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Golden Cue Billiard Lounge is the only extant billiard hall in Albany, New York?

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

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Viability of article

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– Article was improved and kept at AfD.

This is the ONLY billiards hall in Albany NY, that I know of. It would be a good article and source of information imho.]

I'll give you some time. A simple google search gets a newpapaer reference and some generic info sites, but nothing else. Those sources would be enough to pass CSD, but I think it would still be deleted after WP:afd. You should read WP:RS and WP:N while you edit. Whose going to search for this besides some Albany residents and people who live in the surrounding towns? Buggie111 (talk) 15:32, 1 May 2010

It's not necessarily a "search" issue; most articles like this would be found via cross-reference in other articles. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 00:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I shall do my best sir. This is obviously my first submission and am working in understanding the community. The time is appreciated, as would any edits. How do I write it as to not make it look like an advertisement? People outside the albany area would be interested, because if you do a search for the golden cue you will find people travel long distances to play there. I believe there have been national competitions there but I shall have to do more research to be sure. All feedback and help to make the article a good fit for wikipedia is of course appreciated. I just created thegoldencue.net as a personal favor. The site does not yet appear on google although it has been submitted to every search engine, it just went live last week.

Regards,

John VanDerwerken (just a patron of the pool hall)

I see that you've been using [7] as a reference. Copying and pasting from it is not allowed, but here's somthing that you could add to it:

The hall, which opened in 1962, is owned by Rocco Spinelli Jr, who gained ownership of the building from his father, Rocco Sr. It runs from 11 am to 2 pm,<ref>http://www.timesunion.com/specialreports/centralave/bestof/3best.asp</ref> and is located in [[Albany, New York]]. This still doesn't mean that WP:afd wil save it, but it's a shot. Buggie111 (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick feedback!

John VanDerwerken

That Spinelli stuff was kinda not very encyclopedic wording; I redid it. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 00:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only hall in Albany

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– Just an FYI.

I've checked various directories like CitySearch and this really does appear to be the case. There's a downtown yuppie bar called Jillian's, described as "a complete dining and entertainment megaplex",[8] that has some some pool tables, but it is not a pool hall per se. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 01:03, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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