Talk:Glossary of bowling

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I can't find what I'm looking for this website sucks!!!!!

What exactly are you looking for? Staszek Lem (talk) 01:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Split?

A 9-10 leave is definitely not a split, unlike a 4-10 or 7-10. Siealex (talk) 22:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Glossary of bowling entries, esp. re names of splits and spares

Discussion copied from a User talk page, so that additional editors can weigh in:

Hi, User:Utfor. I was thinking that the many names for specific splits might better be added to the diagram under splits spare, or some entries left out altogether. The informal names for splits, though not formally 'wrong' under Wikipedia principles but obscure names probably don't reach the threshold of notability, and make the glossary read more and more like a list of trivia rather than a serious glossary about the concepts and principles underlying bowling. I haven't resolved the issue in my own mind, but please give it some thought. Thanks for contributing. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

User:RCraig09 Thank you for your feedback. I have reverted the glossary for now. What do you think about moving the entries to split (bowling), or do each split need a few sentences of comments? Without comments, will it be trivia even in the split (bowling) page? Utfor (talk) 19:05, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

— @Utfor: This is a tough "judgment call". My own goal (having made ~300 edits to supplement and organize the Glossary over ~19 months) has been to create a resource that bowlers and others can use to understand important principles underlying the sport. I have specifically avoided non-notable trivia because such trivia might degrade readers' impression of the sport and of Wikipedia articles in general. —RCraig09 (talk) 19:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

— Now, the Glossary entry for spare has a good graphic diagram that (I think) can be supplemented with notable text names of spares (including splits), an approach that would avoid cluttering the Glossary as a whole. Also, it's a creative idea to create any textual lists at split (bowling) (as you mention) and/or spare (bowling) (a term that some define as including splits). In the Glossary, we could add an internal link such as See spare (bowling) for nicknames of specific spares. —RCraig09 (talk) 19:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Copied from my user talk page on 16:31, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Would you be interested in expanding the Glossary of bowling with terms from User:Utfor/Glossary of bowling? Utfor (talk) 23:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Utfor: Your list has many non-standard terms, plus many terms I've never heard of after reading/seeing thousands of bowling articles+videos, slang names of spares/splits, other trivia, and some terms that are already in the official glossary article. There may be a few items worthy of adding to the official glossary, but as we already discussed (mainly with reference to slang names of spares/splits), Wikipedia glossaries should not be a list of trivia or arcane distractions.

I did a major overhaul of the article a couple of years ago and have since had my antennae up for new terms, and extremely few "new" terms have popped up since.

Bottom line: I think one should start with tiny number of the most commonly used, notable, mainstream, conceptually important terms — rather than starting with a huge list of trivia. —RCraig09 (talk) 01:09, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I've gone through the entire list, and only found a tiny handful that I added to this Glossary. —RCraig09 (talk) 22:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

"Major"

I recently added Major which was conspicuously missing from this article. Please fell free to modify my definition. 47.137.184.131 (talk) 03:28, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. It would be nice to have a link to a source that neatly lists which tournaments are majors, but your work seems to be right. —RCraig09 (talk) 07:51, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Brooklyn

The current definition is adequate, but I wonder if we should make it clear for readers new to bowling that the pocket for a left-handed bowler is different than the pocket for a right-handed bowler. 47.137.184.131 (talk) 03:36, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I've just put in an "internal link" to 'pocket' because Brooklyn is defined in terms of the pocket. 'Pocket' is defined with reference to Board 17.5, which is flexible as to left- or right-handed releases. Most like to keep things brief on Wikipedia, especially in glossaries. —RCraig09 (talk) 07:49, 5 December 2020 (UTC)