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How about "back to back tramcars" Palmerston 05:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard the expression. What does it mean? Eric.Cuddy Wifter 05:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename?

I think this article could usefully be renamed to Australian and New Zealand punting glossary. Comments? Moriori 04:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I put this collection of terms together from an Australian punters point of view. I have no objection to renaming it. It's probably up to Kiwi members to determine if it also reflects the New Zealand scene. - Cuddy Wifter 02:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been bold. And, congrats for the article too. Moriori 06:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I recommended a merge with North American Thoroughbred horse racing terminology. Some terms are identical, some are similar, and for those which are different, may I recommend the collegial atmosphere we created at Glossary of equestrian terms? Basically, totally different words cross link both directions, ones close in spelling can be combined with both forms shown, and in the event of a dispute, whoever got their first gets to go first. My suggested title is Glossary of horse racing terms. Discuss? Montanabw^(talk) 23:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fair suck of the sav, montanabw! Have you been sampling the local hooch? There is no way that these articles should be merged. Consider the following:

The very existance of the article Glossary of Australian and New Zealand punting, which contains some 340 terms, 90 % of which only relate to Aus/NZ, would question your inference that there is a worldwide list of common terms for horse racing.

The Aus/NZ article is already 46Kb long, which is about the reccommended maximum size for an article. Any addition of terms from the US, Canada, the UK and Ireland would create a bloated article in need of splitting up.

The two articles are not based on the same subject. The Aust/NZ article is based on gambling terms, in relation to horse racing, whereas the North American article relates to Thoroughbred horse racing terminology and is only a stub article of some 25 terms.

I would welcome the expansion of the North American article to a similar size as the Aus/NZ article, which would give me and many others a better understanding of racing and betting in the US and Canada. A similar article on the UK and Ireland would also be welcome.

Horse racing around the world has, until recent years, evolved in geograhical isolation with an inevitable diverse vocabulary - check the Aus/NZ article and see how many of the local colloquialisms you are familiar with. It was this rich local vocablary which I have discovered in my 40 years of living in Australia, and led me to start the article.

More opinions would be welcome. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 06:17, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let's put it this way: We desperately need a glossary with a logical title, however it gets there. My thinking is that at the very least, the North America article should have common UK English terms added and that glossary made international... partly because the Glossary of equestrian terms has a few random horse racing terms, but to make it the home of such things would triple it in size and be undue weight to racing... so, further thoughts on how to make this happen? Montanabw^(talk) 01:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

UK editor arriving late. I did enjoy this article but there is a problem which also applies to the American list. There are two types of terms mixed together: we have things like "Cop a minty wrapper" which are distinctively and exclusively Aus/NZ and sit rather oddly alongside terms like "colt" and "furlong" which would be better in a general racing glossary. A single glossary should to indicate which terms are used in which part of the (English-speaking) world. Tigerboy1966 20:52, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Abbreviations

Can Australian abbreviations be added to the Glossary?

In particular what is the meaning of MNW as in MNW Handicap?

There are many other form guide abbreviations to consider. Nnoddy (talk) 01:19, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing MNW stands for Metropolitan No Wins. In other words Horses who have won at Metro tracks are ineligible for that race. Tigerman2005 (talk) 00:56, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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