Talk:Global Assessment of Functioning

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Sourcing

The Luborsky, Endicott, etc. need to be converted to properly formatted citations. I will look them up in PubMed if someone doesn't beat me to it (it will take me a while to get to it). There also is a Hall (1995) paper about a more structured format. Prof. Eric A. Youngstrom (talk) 17:59, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Copyright

Isn't the GAF copyrighted by the American Psychiatric Association? Shouldn't the article refer to the GAF and describe it instead of having the entire GAF in it? --- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blagov (talk • contribs) 18:32, April 1, 2008 (UTC)

The test itself is probably copyrighted, but I'm sure the summary of the results given here is fair use. -- Scarpy (talk) 22:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Believe it or not, the "summary of the results" here pretty much _is_ the test, whole and complete. It's a very subjective assessment. I can dig out my DSM and see if the text is word for word, but it looks very similar. Maybe it might be better if someone was to summarize a description of the tool, along with some criticism, since there is a lot of valid criticism of its actual utility. I'm not very familiar with editing wikipedia, outside of the general guidelines, but if no one wants the job I can dig around and see what I have in terms of sources (School Psychology grad student) 75.66.186.188 (talk) 03:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

It is not fair use, and reproducing it here is a clear copyright violation. I have tagged it and will remove the section in a few days unless something is changed. 71.77.21.198 (talk) 18:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Someone added it again, so I am removing it as a copyright violation. Clear violation Wikipedia policy. 71.77.20.119 (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

And I've removed it again, as it seems to be a word-for-word copy of https://www.msu.edu/course/sw/840/stocks/pack/axisv.pdf. If we rewrite the descriptions of the scale levels in our own words, that should be fine, but we shouldn't just copy and paste copyrighted text and fling it out into the world marked CC-Attribution-SA. --McGeddon (talk) 19:28, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

frequent shoplifting vs occasional panic attacks vs. theft within the household also were the diff. to 60 and 70?

Hi! I dont quite get it.

"61 – 70 Some mild symptoms (e.g., depressed mood and mild insomnia) or some difficulty in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., occasional truancy, or theft within the household), but generally functioning pretty well, has some meaningful interpersonal relationships.

51 – 60 Moderate symptoms (e.g., flat affect and circumlocutory speech, occasional panic attacks) or moderate difficulty in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., few friends, conflicts with peers or co-workers).

41 – 50 Serious symptoms (e.g., suicidal ideation, severe obsessional rituals, frequent shoplifting) or any serious impairment in social, occupational, or school functioning (e.g., no friends, unable to keep a job, cannot work)."

Ok so 41-50 is for example frequent shoplifting, 61-70 theft within the household).

Lets say I have GAF score 42 or now 51. Does that automatically mean I frequently shoplift? I never stole anything not even as a kid...

And probably my GAF score as a kid was much higher than today.

I do indeed get why suicidal ideat is 41-50 over depresses mood and mild insomnia being 61-70 but theses categories are some way crazy.

So you want to tell me somebody stealing stuff of family members is better than omebody not doing stealing at all?!

Other point: What level of stealing is 51-60 now?! Is that like only stealing once a month in supermarkets? Because it is definitely not frequent but its also not from theft within the household....

I demand to have info how much stealing is going on when I have GAF score 51-60. Because according to the GAF score Im stealing things. So I want to know exactly how often that happens...

Another point: flat affect and circumlocutory speech. You could argue that flat affect is partly symptom of depression than this would probably fit to the GAF score range 51-60 but what about people with Alexithymia or Autism ?

Also: How many friends to I have to have to be lets say score 61? If I have "few friends" Im stuck at 51-60 as I understand it. I always had few friends.

Independantly from if I needed psychological counseling, meds or not. Also I never had conflicts with co-workers.

My speech could be described as circumlocutory. But why do we assume at all that circumlocutory speech is part of a disorder?

Logorrhae can also happen due to coffee concumption.

I also don't get why we are listing low-functioning and high-functioning autism under "see also" section. The only diagnosises except for alcoholism.

"High-functioning alcoholism" is that actually a diagnosis? Why even HFA? HFA stands for high-functioning autism. HFA for alcoholism is not only confusing but also alcoholism is a diagnosis! Why is that artible not listed under "Substance-related disorders" or in the least "Substance dependence"?

If your just a boss of a company and due alcohol every day its no masterpiece to keep a job ... 2A02:8388:4501:1F00:ACE4:E365:4D03:8781 (talk) 23:29, 24 July 2022 (UTC)