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POV problem

Wow. I've never seen an article with a section called "Badness" before. "While the film is well-meaning, there is no denying its ineptitude." is also quite unnecessary. Remember NPOV policy: Wikipedia's job is not to state any value judgments on anything as though they were fact, even when they're universally, 100% agreed upon; instead, sources must be cited and people quoted for all such judgments. -Silence 01:10, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I extensively rewrote the article, fixing all NNPOV statements, and skirting around the opinionated "badness" comments with the more impartial term "idiosyncracies". Also corrected some errors, such as the false statement that the world's first sex change was in 1952. Jorgensen's was not the first, it was simply the most famous in America. (The first sex change operation was in Germany in 1931, and was commonplace in Europe by the 1940s.) wikipediatrix 05:03, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Public domain

This film is on a list of films in the Public Domain. This article needs an explanation why. Design 10:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I contacted the user that is categorizing some of Ed Wood's film as public domain. See User talk:Ibaranoff24. Those films were created in the 1950s. Someone has to own the rights to his films consider the popularity of those films. --4.253.34.184 00:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Got any proof of that? I find that extremely hard to believe, especially in the case of Plan 9 from Outer Space which is almost certainly still owned by Wade Williams. wikipediatrix 04:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry. Wade Williams does not own Plan 9. He has also claimed copyright on other films that are, in fact, public domain. (Ibaranoff24 13:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC))

Correct title

I put in a request for this article to be properly moved to its correct title (Glen or Glenda rather than Glen or Glenda?). (Ibaranoff24 13:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC))

Fuller's Awareness

Fuller was not aware of Wood's transvestism at the time: the nature of the film was not fully explained to her, and Wood rarely wore women's clothing when she was on set. Only at a screening of the finished product was the truth revealed, and Fuller claims to have been humiliated by the experience I could swear I saw an interview where she indicated otherwise, and the event mentioned elsewhere in the article -- regarding the take of the famous shot, in which she had originally thrown the sweater at him -- occurred because of her aggravation with his crossdressing. Since I can't cite the interview either, I just put a "citation needed" on the above mentioned block of text; but it would behelpful if someone with some access to interviews with Fuller could get this straightened out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.11.25 (talk) 07:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

This certainly does need a citation as she can't have been too mislead regarding the nature of the film, given her line in the final scene in Dr. Alton's office (2:30 before the end of the film), where Fuller's character asks, "Suposing Glen never gets over wearing girl's clothing?" -- 124.157.234.42 (talk) 09:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Untitled

  • The page history shows that at one point this was in the now deleted category for Public Domain Film. Can somebody confirm if the movie is in the public domain or not? My understanding is that it would be if the original copyright was not renewed, but I have no idea how to determine this. If it is in the public domain for Berne countries, I think this is worth noting in the article. - 203.217.89.126 (talk) 08:14, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

"He eats little boys, puppy dog tails, and big fat snails"

Is this line from Glen or Glenda a reference to the nursery rhyme What Are Little Boys Made Of?? In the rhyme, little boys are made of "Frogs and snails And puppy-dogs' tails." Hbomberman (talk) 21:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Wearing a hat causes Baldness

This movie was made in 1953. The medical knowledge of the day wasn't up to the standards we have now. A doctor saying that a hat causes baldness wouldn't be that bizarre, and I don't really see why it is being portrayed as "bizarre" for a doctor to say that. Primium mobile (talk) 18:07, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

It's bizarre because it's a claim with no evidence to support it. The amount of medical knowledge available doesn't change the basic principle of basing theories on reasoning and observation; that principle has been in place since long before 1953.--Martin IIIa (talk) 03:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Of course the principle was in place. But that has never stopped doctors and everyone else from making claims based on faulty logic or observation. That tale started because when you take off a hat it has several hairs in it. The theory that hat-wearing causes baldness was first published in medical journals in 1929, and was not thoroughly debunked until the 1960s. I don't find it odd or bizarre that a doctor would be saying this in 1953. Doctors in the early 1950's were also appearing in ads about the benefits of smoking. It may seem bizarre to us today, but by the standards and knowledge of the day it was not. Primium mobile (talk) 11:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
How about waiting until this discussion is concluded before archiving it? Primium mobile (talk) 17:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Question mark is actually on the poster image

Contrary to what it says in the article, the question mark appears in the poster used to illustrate. 157.92.4.71 (talk) 14:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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