Talk:Glasgow Govan (Scottish Parliament constituency)

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Info box

I have just reverted to the older, template-independent info box, because the newer box includes glaring inaccuracies. Would be a good idea to fit the map into the older info box, with caption ".. within the Glasgow electoral region". Laurel Bush 09:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Info box now looking much better. Laurel Bush 10:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

lots more info about the Menbers of the Scottish Youth Parliament been added to the page, This was added to show th importance and raise awareness of these elections.

Since 1999 was the first election, where have the changes in % for that election come from? Cripipper 18:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In 1999 the constituency had the same boundaries as a Westminster constituency. Looks like someone thought it would be a good idea to compare the result with a the previous Westminster result. Does not strike me as a very good idea, not least because all subsequent comparisons should be with earlier Holyrood results. Laurel Bush 10:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Boundaries

I note removal of reference to Renfrewshire. The Holyrood constituency was created in 1999 with the boundaries of the Govan Westminster constituency. In 1999, and until 2005 (when the Westminster constituency was replaced with new constituencies), the Westminster constituency did include part of Renfrewhire, and, at present, the Holyrood constituency is unchanged, retaining the boundaries it had when created. See The 5th Periodical Report of the Boundary Commission for Scotland, which details 2005 changes to boundaries of Westminster constituencies, and shows pre 2005 Glasgow Govan covering part of Renfrewshire. Laurel Bush 10:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Glasgow Govan only covered Renfrewshire because the administrative borders changed in 2002, so in 1999 the constituency was entirely in the City of Glasgow council area. Catchpole 10:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. The constiteuncy was entirely within the city area, but is not now? Did the boundary change become effective in 2002? Or at local government elections in 2003? Laurel Bush 12:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC).[reply]

From the Boundary Commission for Scotland 5th Periodical Report - 14/12/04 - [1] paragraph 16 of the Glasgow City Council area review:

"16. Following publication of our provisional proposals, the boundary between Glasgow City Council area and Renfrewshire Council area was amended by The Glasgow City and Renfrewshire Council Boundaries (Braehead) Amendment Order 2002. Accordingly, on 23 October 2003, we published revised recommendations to reflect the realignment of the boundary between Glasgow City Council area ward 51 (Drumoyne) and Renfrewshire Council area ward 27 (Deanside). Whilst an area of land was transferred between the Council areas, no electors were affected by this boundary change."

So an area of land was moved but as nobody lived there, the population of the constituencies didn't change. Catchpole 12:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scottish Youth Parliament (SYP)

An IP and User:A Sheridan seem intent on including, in great detail, the details of the Youth Parliament elections on this page I come here to gain consensus. The Youth Parliament has no connection in any way with the Parliamentary process that is the subject of the article. Additionally, there is no independent coverage of the results (or even coverage on the SYP website) so the detail is unverifiable. The lack of independent coverage also means the added material fails the most basic of notability tests. The material as far as I can see fails inclusion criteria and by placing it within an article dealing with Parliamentary process gives it undue weight. To my mind it needs to be excised. Nuttah (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

would you like external links to proof of there elections?, The information was protected by wikipedia at one point as the SYP information was being vandalised, however the semi-protection expired. Obviously I would like to work with you so that we can come to a suitable arrangement without a conflict of interest.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.106.241 (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would like evidence from reliable sources that establish notability and provide independent verifiability. Until then, the added material fails the inclusion criteria. Please do not add it again before addressing these concerns. Nuttah (talk) 20:44, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have been looking at the reliable sources section and would like to ask a question regarding what I have found under Self-published sources

"When produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications"

I am the current MSYP for Glasgow Govan (Austin Sheridan), I have proof from the SYP website that I am a elected member in the Glasgow region and I have also appeared in newspaper articles where it states that I have been elected for Glasgow Govan, however in-deep details of the Govan elections in were never published online elsewhere although we were told the details at the count.

Since I am the MSYP I may qualify as an "expert" in the coverage of the Govan SYP election, now would I need to publish the results on my website to use as a source?

I look forward to your reply.

I am new to wikipedia and I don't know how to sign, sorry, Austin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.106.241 (talk) 21:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer, to show that you are an established expert you would have to supply independent reliable sources stating that you were. To establish that the event is notable, you need to provide independent, 3rd party coverage of the election. If notability is established, if you can show that your 'work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications' it may be able to be used to verify what is claimed. Nuttah (talk) 21:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, I will get back to you in good time.

Thanks, Austin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.106.241 (talk) 21:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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