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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 20:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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You currently have four music GANs pending, so it is definitely fair for me to take one on! --K. Peake 20:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Infobox and lead
[edit]- Infobox looks good!
"handled the song's production." → "handled the production."Done"specifically their song" → "specifically their track" to avoid confusion with the next sentence using "the song"Done"The song's production consists" → "The former's production consists" to be specificDoneThere is too much listed for the lead what it consists of; trim this to avoid a supermarket list, but keep all the influencesDoneSame comment as about for the lyrics; try listing a few subjects it covers then put "among others" at the endDone"and praised the song's lyrics and production, noting it" → "and praised the lyrics and production, noting the song" to be less wordyDoneMention that the 62nd Annual Grammy Awards were in 2020DoneToo many chart positions in the lead; remove the US Rock Airplay and Australia onesDoneThe room was only inspired by self-reflection, not Lady GagaDone
- Reworded to avoid confusion. Giacobbe talk 11:50, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Background and release
[edit]- First para looks good!
"which led to" → "which led precisely to"Done"On 1 May," → "On 1 May 2018,"Done- Shouldn't [14] also be invoked directly before [15], as it backs up parts of that sentence?
- Is that necessary if it backs up parts of that sentence and the following sentence? Or would that be WP:OVERCITE? Giacobbe talk 11:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- I just thought it might be confusing because the readers could think [15] was the only source used for the sentence, but I guess it's ok. --K. Peake 12:19, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- No worries I can add it in! I can see what you mean. Giacobbe talk 12:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
"to 1 June." → "to 1 June 2018."Done"radio show, set" → "self-titled radio show, set" with the pipeDone"On 31 May," → "On 31 May 2018,"Done
Writing and recording
[edit]- Quote box looks good!
Pipe his generation to MillennialsDonePipe tension to Tension (music)DoneThe release year of "Disorder" should be in brackets on the first mention insteadDone"According to the singer," → "According to the 1975 member," to avoid confusion with the both bands partDone"where both bands originated." → "where both bands originated from."Done"Rather than sample the song, the band" → "Rather than sample the song, the 1975" with the pipeDonePipe STDS to Sexually transmitted infectionDone"drug addiction were autobiographical." → "drug addiction are autobiographical." for consistency with tenseDone"hard not to become emotional and remain objective." → "hard to remain objective and not become emotional." for correct orderDone"Overall, the singer classifies" → "Overall, the singer classified"Done"saying it was about" → "saying it is about" because this is about the final songDone
Music and lyrics
[edit]Add a comma after the song title on the audio sample textDone[12][23][20][24] should be put in numerical orderDone"reminiscent of "Disorder"." → "reminiscent of Joy Division's "Disorder"." per this being the music sectionDone[27][23][28] same as aboveDoneWikilink basslines, but are you sure the word springy is appropriate language for this section?Done
- Added quotation marks around "spring", otherwise can paraphrase to "springing". Giacobbe talk 12:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
"staticy drums,[33] a skittering" → "staticy drums and a skittering" because the influences can go in their own sentence to avoid a run-on; move [33] to the end of the production sentence and place [34] directly after itDone- Img looks good!
"and the acknowledgement of" → "and acknowledgement of"DoneFull-stop is not needed after the question mark because that is a full quoteDoneRemove pipe on STDsDoneThe "new, maturing personality" part is not sourcedDone"a cross between" → "a cross between the"Done"Thomas Smith of" → "Thomas Smith from" to avoid overusing "of"Done"Morgan Enos of" → "Morgan Enos from" per aboveDone"represents "the point" → "focuses on "the point"Done"to the Strokes' Room on Fire, "rendered" → "to Room on Fire "rendered"Done
Reception
[edit]Critical response
[edit]- Replace the img with a different one, as only two critics are sourced as making this comparison in the section
- Added some more reviews comparing it to the Strokes for this section :) Giacobbe talk 12:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- First para looks good!
Wikilink Jon ParelesDone"while suggesting it serves" → "while suggesting the song serves"Done"writing the song is" → "he wrote the song is"Done"praised the 1975 for" → "praised them for"Done"on darker topics despite its" → "on darker topics that appropriately accompany its" per the sourceDoneItalicise IdolatorDone"big, bold sound of" → "big, bold sound of their singles" with the pipeDone"comparing it to" → "comparing the song to"Done
Commercial performance
[edit]Swap order of [52] and [53], as the UK chart position ref should be first per the proseDone"of over 200,000 units." → "of over 200,000 units in the UK."Done"and was later ranked" → "while it later ranked"Done
Music video
[edit]"A music video directed by Diane Martel" → "An accompanying music video, directed by Diane Martel,"Done[60][18] put in numerical orderDone"The psychologist is" → "The psychologist that he turns to is" per the sourceDone"to perform the song." → "to jam and dance to the song." per the sourceDone"are presented as closed captioning" → "are presented with closed captioning" with the wikilinkDone"his problems through others." → "his problems through others' help."Done"that can help" → "who can help"Done
Credits and personnel
[edit]- Good
Charts
[edit]- Good
Certifications
[edit]- Good
References
[edit]Copyvio score looks slightly too high at 40.8%; cut down quoting from Billboard a bit to fix thisMake sure all of these are archived by using the toolCite Idolator as work/website instead for ref 20Authorlink Jon Pareles on ref 40Target Paste to Paste (magazine) on ref 51
External links
[edit]- Good
Final comments and verdict
[edit]- On hold until all of the issues are fixed, another nice article from you though! --K. Peake 09:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- (CA)Giacobbe ✓ Pass now, a few issues popped up after my comments that I fixed and great job in responding within hours; I crossed out the ones you forgot to mark off. --K. Peake 13:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Kyle Peake: Amazing job as always! Your hard work and dedication to reviewing GANs is remarkable! Thank you buddy! Giacobbe talk 13:36, 14 March 2021 (UTC)