Talk:Gisele Thompson

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A fact from Gisele Thompson appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 August 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that sisters Alyssa and Gisele Thompson are the first high school students to sign a name, image, and likeness deal with Nike?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gisele Thompson.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 02:05, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Gisele Thompson played on boys' teams before becoming the number one 2023 National Women's Soccer League draft pick? Source: Boys' teams: https://www.mlssoccer.com/mlsnext/news/alyssa-and-gisele-thompson-s-unconventional-path-to-uswnt-success-via-mls-next
Draft pick: https://justwomenssports.com/reads/2023-nwsl-draft-live-tracker-angel-city-gotham-kansas-city-current/
- ALT1: ... that sisters Alyssa and Gisele Thompson are the first high school students to sign an endorsement deal with Nike? Source: https://www.today.com/news/sports/high-school-soccer-star-sisters-reflect-on-historic-nike-deal-rcna41271
- ALT2: ... that sisters Alyssa and Gisele Thompson are the first high school students to sign a name, image, and likeness deal with Nike? Source: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/33933056/nike-inc-signs-sister-soccer-players-company-first-high-school-name-image-likeness-deal
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rhian Teasdale

Created by Apae02 (talk). Nominated by Significa liberdade (talk) at 03:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gisele Thompson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

article is new enough, long enough and within policy. Hook looks good, I prefer ALT0. QPQ is done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:17, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: ALT0 is factually incorrect: it's Gisele's sister Alyssa Thompson who was the No. 1 pick in the 2023 NWSL Draft. Seany91 (talk) 14:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seany91 -- Thanks for pointing out this error. I have deleted ALT0 and apologize! I push forward ALT1. Significa liberdade (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes. Seany91, you're right. I must have gotten the sisters mixed up. Significa liberdade, can you come address this. ALT1 is fine with me though. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:37, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

to ALT1. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They are emphatically not the first high-school athletes to ever sign a Nike endorsement deal. They were very specifically the first to sign an NCAA-complaint Name, Image and Likeness (NIL) deal. If rewritten to state "that sisters Alyssa and Gisele Thompson are the first high school students to sign a name, image, and likeness deal with Nike?", it'd be factually accurate.

The cited Today Show article is also arguably unreliable on that point, and clearer sources specifying the NIL deal aspect are available from more reliable sports and news outlets: ESPN, SI, LA Times are three examples with more available on a Google search.

Additionally, Nike has signed endorsement deals with notable high school athletes before these NCAA NIL rules existed, perhaps most notably of all LeBron James's $90 million deal signed a month before he graduated in 2003. See also Nike's endorsement deal with 13-year-old Freddy Adu in 2003, who was attending at the time and a year later graduated from an accelerated high school program. Even more relevant here is high-school track athlete Briana Williams's Nike endorsement deal 2019, which she signed four years before Mia Brahe-Pedersen notably became first track athlete to specifically sign a NIL deal with Nike last month. NIL deals are notable for being a new, distinct, and specific type of endorsement deal that should be specified. -Socccc (talk) 21:13, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this out, Socccc. I'm coming from outside of the sports world as a (new) New Page Patroller, and the page on Gisele looked, to me, like it held value for DYK. Do you have an alternate hook, or would you recommend scrapping the DYK altogether? Significa liberdade (talk) 14:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Added ALT2, which is just the text and source that I suggested in my comment. -Socccc (talk) 19:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also corrected the same statement as made in Gisele Thompson and Alyssa Thompson, replaced the Today Show source, and added them and additional context to student athlete compensation. -Socccc (talk) 20:06, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Socccc: assuming you have been satisfied after reading the discussion above. @Apae02 and Significa liberdade: Just a note about the hook fact WP:DYKCRIT#3b. The hook in the article suffers from WP:OVERCITE which can be distracting. Thank you for nominating. Bruxton (talk) 19:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also need to address some WP:CLOP. Earwig. Bruxton (talk) 19:48, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did some copyediting. Bruxton (talk) 02:04, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]