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Disambiguation?
[edit]This is currently flagged as a disambiguation, but it has the potential to be a very interesting article. See
http://www.californiaauthors.com/essay_stillman.shtml
for some interesting stuff.
Gidget has for example the distinction of being, as (arguably) the same character, (natural) blonde when originally played by Sandra Dee in the 1959 film, redhead when played by Deborah Walley in a sequel film Gidget Goes Hawaiian, and of course brunette when played by Sally Field. A bit like James Bond or Doctor Who in the continuity department.
IMDB says there were several forgettable sequels of the 1959 film, and that seems to be true, as they don't name any of them. Nor does Deanne Stillman mention them in the external link above. They seem (wait for it) forgotten.
Ah, but they reckoned without Wikipedia...! Two are listed on Amazon!
As Stillman notes, the information is not all that easily found. Or that's her experience, and, so far, mine. This is clearly a job for... WikiMan! Andrewa 20:53, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Done. I haven't marked it as a stub, as I think it has some integrity and completeness already, and we don't seem to have a suitable stub category anyway.
The most fascinating thing is how many sources have some of the facts wrong. The original article now at Gidget (film) stated that Sally Fields was the first non-blonde Gidget. This is repeated in some other accounts, but it's not true. Several otherwise reliable web pages say or imply that Sandra Dee played Gidget in the two sequel films, possibly that's the source of the rumour that Gidget was blonde until Sally. And many otherwise authoritative sources don't say how many film sequels there were, or what they were called. I hope I now have it sorted out!
There are two collections of episodes from the 1965 sitcom currently available on video, Beach Blanket Gidget and Gidget-a-go-go. Possibly these are the source of the doubts as to how many film sequels there were. But information on these IMO belongs in a separate Gidget (TV series) article, not this one.
The other interesting thing is that Wikipedia seems to have almost nothing on surf culture generally. I would have expected a whole category of articles, but we don't even seem to have an article... yet. Andrewa 21:04, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm, the major outstanding is that some sources say there were three telemovies. I've only found two as of yet. Maybe the animation is confusing some people. Nobody actually lists three telemovies, not that I've seen yet. But nobody even lists the two I've got, either. Andrewa 09:27, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm beginning to form a theory as to why people don't mention the telemovies explicitly. The only comment on IMDb about Gidget Grows Up gushes its praise, but my impression from the synopsis was that it was sufficiently dated and cliched to make even (perhaps especially) a Gidget fan nauseous. (I'm not one particularly, I just think it's an interesting phenomenon.) The style seems a far reach from the movies and the Sally Field/Caryn Richman incarnation. If Mad Magazine were to parody it, Gidget Throws Up would be too obvious... perhaps they have?
Perhaps this is why fansites tend not to list both telemovies? Andrewa 19:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Who is the real Gidget
[edit]I thought Maureen Drummy was the actual real life Gidget. At least that's the claim made in "Step into Liquid" by Dana Brown. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.148.248.157 (talk • contribs) 19:33, June 26, 2006 (UTC)
- Um, no. The article is pretty self explanitory, and you can find a lot of info on Kathy Kohner-Zuckerman, the real life Gidget. But, "Step into Liquid" doesn't make the claim that Maureen Drummy is the real life Gidget--at least not from what I can tell. From doing a little Googling, I've been able to find that Maureen Drummy only appeared in "Step into Liquid" in the DVD extras (at least that's my guess, as she's not listed under the cast at IMB or anywhere else). She's in one segment and there is an interview with here. This is all I've really found in the interviews in re Gidget:
Steve Pezman: . . . when the movie “Gidget” came out, and the whole thing got commodified. ....
<Kathy Koda on surfboard>
+++ Tape #1972 1:35:55 +++
Dana Brown: And neither has Gidget. Kathy Koda was given that nickname back in the ’50s .... Her father was inspired to write a novel ....link to transcript (pdf)
- I'm assuming that this is a reference to Kathy Kohner. Besides, I can't find anyone named Kathy Koda--nothing big shows up.
- I have found one person who attributed the title of Gidget inspiration to Maureen Drummy. Geoff Carter who wrote a review of "Step into Liquid" for Las Vegas Weekly, incorrectly dubbed Maureen Drummy "Gidget inspiration" here. But I cannot find anything that suggests that "Step into Liquid" does this. "Step into Liquid" does note that "Layne Beachley earned the nickname “Gidget” early in her career" Step_into_Liquid_notes_8-04-03.doc. TStein 10:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Gidget/Bewitched connection?
[edit]This seems a bit nebulous to me. I went to the one ref for this segment. It's a page on TV shooting locations. It shows a picture of a house said to stand at 267 18th Street in Santa Monica, CA, and describes how Screen Gems opted to build a facade on the Warner Bros. back lot based on it for Bewitched; no mention of any Gidget connection. It does look like the house seen in the 1959 movie though. Assuming the contributor's assertion is true, it's not much of a connection, just a piece of scenery for one project being based on a building used in another by the same studio--a shortcut by the scenic designer. (Bewiched and the TV sitcom Gidget were produced by Screen Gems, a division of Columbia Pictures, which made the three Gidget films.)
As for a set used in "Gidget goes to Rome" being reused in Bewiched, well of course big expensive resources such as sets (and cameras and lighting instruments) get reused--maybe some of the same cameras were used for both Gidget and Bewiched--so what? It was the same production company. (Also this assertion is not referenced--but it's likely enough true.)
I am skeptical of the business about the Samantha doll. No, I didn't sit through all 32 episodes looking for it (I do have a life outside of Wikipedia), but where I did look--yes, Gidget does at least sometimes seem to have a doll in her room, but even with DVD zoom you can't tell what kind. If as the contributor asserts, this was part of a marketing strategy, there should be a close up (probably more than one, even) in which the product can be recognized by viewing on an old fashioned 1960's TV set, without enlargement or enhancement. If there is such an image, will the contributor (or anyone else who knows) please post the number or title of the episode so that I can check it out? I'll own up if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am; Product Placement was not widely used for advertizing in 1960's TV sitcoms.
I really don't beleive there is any significant Bewitched/Gidget connection beyond the fact that they were produced by the same company, and the common coincidences that might reasonably stem from that fact--just my two cents. Floggolozzo (talk) 21:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
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the musical
[edit]The Krysta Rodriguez article mentions a play, Gidget the Musical, not mentioned in this article. Mulp (talk) 15:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
book cover photo?
[edit]Is the book cover photograph that of Kathy? 108.213.76.24 (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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Film and television continuity?
[edit]Will someone please tell me what is contiguous with which from the list below? There are six films and two television series, and I can't tell what is supposed to be in the same continuity since the creators could hold onto a single actress to play the part.
- Gidget, Sandra Dee
- Gidget Goes Hawaiian, Deborah Walley
- Gidget Goes to Rome, Cindy Carol
- Gidget, Sally Field
- Gidget Grows Up, Karen Valentine
- Gidget Gets Married, Monie Ellis
- Gidget's Summer Reunion, Caryn Richman
- The New Gidget, Caryn Richman
Please let me know what is and is not in the same continuity. Thank you in advance. LA (T) @ 19:59, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
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