Talk:Ghusl

Improvements noted - but more needed!

This article has been dramatically improved over the past day or so. Thanks, ZaydHammoudeh! However, this only brings to light certain other minor niggling imbalaces within it.

Some Arabic words have become naturalised or accepted into English, that is, they are recognised by educated non-Muslim, non-Arabic speakers. Ramadan and hajj spring to mind -- not many others off the top of my head. (Aside from the ancient borrowings, of course -- algebra and all that!) All the Arabic words here need to be: 1. italicised (to show they are foreign), 2. capitalised, or not, in accordance with English conventions, 3. and, ideally, glossed.

I can do the first two, if I get a spurt of energy, but last would be best done by someone with the knowledge. For example, I glossed "ablution" by adding immediately after the first appearance of that word "ritual washing", because althoough "ablution" is an English word, it is not an everyday one. A little explanation can save a reader from having to guess, or click away from the page.

Another deeper issue is that of quotation. It is great to have lots of sources, but too much direct quotation is not encyclopedic. They should be rewritten. BrainyBabe 20:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Italics and capitals done.BrainyBabe 16:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Question about #3

The one about death outside the battlefield. I don't understand where it is making that claim. The Hadith that is being cited is:

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 345:

Narrated Um 'Atiyya

Allah's Apostle came to us and we were giving a bath to his (dead) daughter and said, "Wash her three, five or more times with water and Sidr and sprinkle camphor on her at the end; and when you finish, notify me." So when we finished, we informed him and he gave us his waist-sheet and told us to shroud her in it. Aiyub said that Hafsa narrated to him a narration similar to that of Muhammad in which it was said that the bath was to be given for an odd number of times, and the numbers 3, 5 or 7 were mentioned. It was also said that they were to start with the right side and with the parts which were washed in ablution, and that Um 'Atiyya also mentioned, "We combed her hair and divided them in three braids."

What does this have to do with what is said?--Ķĩřβȳ♥♥♥ŤįɱéØ 23:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

• "ghusl" :
  • >http://www.al-islam.org/laws/ghusl.html
  • http://www.al-islam.org/laws/ghusl.html
• "tamaam" :
  • ''Tamaam al-Minnah'' by Shaykh [[al-Albani]], pg. 120
  • Ibid.

DumZiBoT (talk) 12:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

More reasons where ghusl is required rather than just wudu?

Isn't this also required after defecation and after sleep (ok the latter probably falls under the category of "having lost conciousness", but could be spelled out more clearly)? -- 85.179.127.132 (talk) 17:32, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Content box gone wrong

Hello, the content box seems to have gone weird with the references added to the titles appearing. I am not sure what exactly is wrong with the wikitext; could someone take a look at it? Thanks! Akhi666 00:59, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Solved it. No probs now. This section is closed. Akhi666 01:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Is this CORRECT???

Ghusl (Arabic: غسل Ġusl , IPA: [ˈɣʊsl]) is an Arabic term referring to the full body washing ablution required, if the adult loses the state of body cleanness, in Islam for adults prior to ablution (wudu وضوء) for various rituals and prayers.

This isn't very clear. Does it mean you do ghusl prior to wudu? That does not appear to be true.
Compare with this:
Do I Need to Make Wudu' after Ghusl? "... you should know that if one performs ghusl properly after post-sex impurity with the intention to remove the impurity, then his ghusl is sufficient and he does not need to make wudu' in order to perform Prayers." --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
... or this:
"Ghusl can replace wudu (if you do ghusl, wudu is unnecessary)" --BoogaLouie (talk) 21:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Have rewritten the lede here. Feedback welcome. --BoogaLouie (talk) 22:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

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