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Expansion

I have realised that this article has a lot of potential, and could become great. There are many, many external sources and websites with information about the group, and I aim to add all of this onto the Wikipedia article. I would appreciate any help with this if anyone is willing. I have listed some possible sections and sources below. User:Stevvvv4444 (talk) 13:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General

[www.geog.qmul.ac.uk/globalcities/reports/docs/workingpaper7.pdf] Multiculturalism at work: The experiences of Ghanaians in London
THE GHANAIAN DIASPORA
Day Ghana came to London
Ghanaian diaspora in the UK and US - a lot of information

Music

Food

Population size

I'm happy to help, although I feel that the first priority should be to find sources for the material already in the article, rather than expansion. If both could be done simultaneously, that would be good. I also have a problem with the data in the article. Can there really be 1,500,000 Ghanaians in the UK? There are only 1,148,738 Black British people, so this seems unlikely. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input, I to believe that 1.5 million might be an overestimate, but coming from the Ghanain High Commision, it should really be right. If this is correct, then many of these may only be part time residents.....or the actual number if immigrants in the UK (and the overall British population) could be a lot higher than currently thought. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 14:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We should perhaps try to find another source. The High Commission may have reasons to over-estimate the numbers (for funding reasons, for instance) or they might not keep their records up to date. The idea that there are 850,000 Ghanaians in London is ridiculous. It would mean that over one in ten Londoners are Ghanaian!. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I would definately say that the figure is an overestimate, but I really wouldn't be surprised if true numbers are aroudn several hundred thousand, due to recent immigration, those of ghanaian descent born in the uk as well as illegal immigrants. I am not sure were a better source could be found, bust simply stating the number of Ghanaian borns in 2001 will be a vast underestimate. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 14:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The number does seem high. But since it cites a reliable source, and a very recent one at that, I myself won't question it. Adding more sources can't hurt, though.

BTW, the book cited, which I can't access in the US, links to page 158 in the book. I was able to access it in Google Books US, where the figure is on page 159. If that's the actual page in the UK version as well, could you guys change the link to the right page, please? SamEV (talk) 18:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The citation links to page 159 not 158, and yes 159 is the page where the population figure is stated. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 21:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I changed my browser settings and, although the contents are still restricted, was able to confirm that it is indeed page 159 that is linked.

I'll pass on the discussion about renaming, for now at least. But you can probably guess that my preference would be "Ghanaian British". SamEV (talk) 01:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The ONS have now started to publish regular estimates of the foreign-born population by country of birth. I've replaced the population figures in the article with those from the latest of these. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:34, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the population figures are so high it makes the whole article a laughing stock. No one will believe anything else in it until this is corrected. If a source has a clear error why use it? People I have told about this have laughed out loud. It's in a book so it must be right? Regardless of all other knowledge of the issue disproving it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.143.56 (talk) 22:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've raised this on the reliable sources noticeboard. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:39, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

Ghanaians in the United Kingdom → British Ghanaians —(Discuss)— Google search suggests that "British Ghanaians" "British+Ghanaians"-wikipedia&start=0&sa=N is a more commonly used term than the "Ghanaian British" "Ghanaian+British"-wikipedia&btnG=Search&meta=. Although both searches contains unrelated hits, the majority of hits still refer to the ethnic group under discussion. --Cop 663 (talk) 13:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC), first link updated by Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There has been ongoing discussion about naming conventions for ethnic groups, fair enough some people may use Ghanaian British, others may use British Ghanaians, the truth is this will always be controversial, so I believe the best thing to do is just keep this article titles Ghanaians in the United Kingdom to prevent disagreement. Both of the other terms are mentioned on this page, but as you can see from a google search, neither are used that often. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 17:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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