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Newspaper.com clippings

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I just added a newspaper.com clipping to one of the citations, which required switching it to cite web. If you like I can add similar clippings to the other cites, though newspaper.com may not have every paper -- it doesn't have the Pittsburgh Courier, for example. Let me know. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:41, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mike. In searching out newspaper articles I mostly use the Fulton Postcards database and the New York Times via ProQuest (from my public library). I'm happy to have you add Newspapers.com to cites in this article where they exist. I note that the Wikipedia Library page on Newspapers.com asks us to put a via statement in the references (via = Newspapers.com). If it's important, I could add Fulton Postcards and NYT urls to the cites. I haven't been doing that mainly because of the extra work it involves and the clutter resulting from what are usually very long urls.
-- Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 17:20, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You're right; I'd forgotten about the via parameter. I think it's worth doing, just because it gives the reader access to the underlying article. I'll do it once the GA review is complete. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:22, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Revisions of May 20, 2016

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Mike: I have now:

  • Put content of non-contextual notes into text.
  • Removed FamilySearch cites apart from ones having document scans.
  • Added a scanned-document alert to remaining FamilySearch cites.
  • Clarified the sentence on death of Major's mother in childbirth.
  • Removed dupe citations.
  • Revised the "set Major onto a career path" statement.
  • Revised the world traveller statement.

I need to do something else for awhile to clear my mind before I try to review the article again, but that shouldn't prevent you from checking what I've done if you wish. -- Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 12:47, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded above in the GA review section. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:33, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've now read through it again and made some minor changes to clarify, remove repetitions, and improve the flow a bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delabrede (talk • contribs) 12:49, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clipping question

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I'm adding clippings to some of the cites, and I have a question about the cite for this quote: "Editor's Note: Mrs. Dismond, who has gained national prominence as a writer in ...". It's cited to the Pittsburgh Courier, 1925-11-21. p. 6, but I can't find that text on that page in newspapers.com. Can you check to see if that's the correct cite? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:26, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected this problem. I'd put the quote with the wrong ref. --Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 19:42, 22 May 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Also, this cite: "Geraldyn Dismond (1927-05-06). "Through the Lorgnette of Geraldyn Dismond". Pittsburgh Courier (Pittsburgh, Penn.). p. 2/1" -- per newspapers.com there was no issue on the 6th of May 1927. Newspapers.com doesn't seem to know about the second section of the paper, so I'm a little sceptical of it here, but I also can't find it on Fulton Postcards. Can you check? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected this problem (it was May 28, a typo on my part). --Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 19:42, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Every time I encounter cite errors I've made I imagine some graduate student cursing me for my sloppiness. I suppose it's an argument for including urls in refs for news articles, but then my copy/paste work my might go awry there as well. --Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 19:42, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have the same problem. I don't know why it's so difficult to find errors in one's own work.
Can you take another look at the second point above? Looks like it still says 1927-05-06 in the footnotes (note 19). Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another one to look at: footnote 21: I don't see a section titled "New Society Editor" on p. 1 of the NYA for 1935-06-01. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:30, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And another: I can't find "Lucille Cromer (1954-11-26). "With 'The Women'". New York Age. p. 14. Gerri Major [was] first to be honored as "Woman of the Year" by The Women in 1951". Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also can't find: ""Mrs. Ada Walls Major, Wife of Prominent Mortician, Succombs". New York Age. 1945-09-15. p. 9.". Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:40, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nor this: ""Alice David and Gertrude Williams Represent New York at Football Classic". Pittsburgh Courier (Pittsburgh, Penn.). 1925-11-21. p. 6." Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:54, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mike: The four should be OK now. I thought I'd fixed them already, but since I had stupidly let my local copy of the file get out of sync with the one on the database, I probably overlooked them when trying to re-sync. I'm now wary of the debris issue re-arising and will review the article again tomorrow.</green> --Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 23:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)>[reply]
Two are fixed, but I still can't find Lucille Cromer or Alice David. If they look right to you, let me know and I'll take another look. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:01, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One more: can't find ""New York Social Leaders Plan Brilliant Season". Pittsburgh Courier (Pittsburgh, Penn.). 1926-10-12. p. 6.". Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:21, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've now looked at every New York Age and Pittsburgh Courier cite, and the three listed above (Lucille, Alice, and "New York Social Leaders") are the only ones left outstanding. I don't think any of the other sources are available on newspapers.com, so that's probably it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:28, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mike: I've fixed the three. The cromer ref cited Pitt Courier when it should have been NYA. Brilliant Season had a typo in the date. Alice David was actually Alice Davis and there was a typo in the date field. I added the Newspapers.com stuff, but being unfamiliar with clips, I put in image links. Your careful review and work on Newspaper.com links has made it obvious to me that I need to proof my refs more carefully in future. Many thanks once again. -- Jeff, Delabrede (talk) 12:14, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the compliment, but believe me, I've been there. On the peer review for radiocarbon dating I got embarrassed by how careless I had been. It happens. Re the clippings: the difference between an image link and a clippings link is that the image link is only available to someone with a subscription. The clippings are freely available. They're pretty easy to do -- go to the image page, click on "Clip" (top toolbar) and then drag the corners of the clippings box to match up to the article you want to clip. Add a more detailed description if you like; then press Clip and it will create a clipping. Then press "Go to clipping" and you can copy the URL from there. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks for the clear explanation. -- Jeff , Delabrede (talk) 11:31, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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These References should be added to Gerri Major Wikipedia

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"The Most Distinguished Social Group Assembled In N. Y. During Holiday Season" The Pittsburgh Courier, Jan 22, 1927, Pg. 5, ProQuest.com [1]

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"North Leads South In Producing Harlem Society Matron" New York City, For First Time In Series, Gets Spotlight With Washington, D.C., Close Second Majority of Harlem Doctors From South, But Large Number Come From West Indian Islands. Calvin, Floyd J.  The Pittsburgh Courier (1911-1950), City Edition; Pittsburgh, Pa., 18 June 1927: Pg. 3. [2]

Thank you.

Lawrencehlevens (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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