Talk:Geraldo Rivera/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Place of Birth

Was he born in Manhatten or Brooklyn? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.122.151.190 (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Headline text

Over the years Geraldo has produced a lot of very informational interviews that were fun to watch the top being the Charles Manson interviews. At one point he said to Manson after all these many years people still have no clue as to what he is about, and Manson almost fell off his chair as his whole scam was being called a complete failure. For once Manson was at a loss for a metaphor. He's a natural with odd characters, uses collegial humor and irony over intimidation and rudeness in getting his guests to open up. He's really good at it and I have no idea why so many attack him or even put breath into issues like racial fairness. He calls them as he see's them, is humanely liberal on people issues(means he is people positive over ideologies and things and power) yet still holds them accountable for what they do and his law background is very helpful. His work has taught me more about unseen corners of our society than most anyone else I can think of. I really don't see him as a "minority at all". He's very mainstream intelligentsia with some good old fashioned horse sense. And his wry humor is great at putting fresh life into any interview. He even is capable at handling a cranky Bill O'Reilly yelling uncomfortably trying to intimidate him, and rather than letting it degenerate into a macho match he shows he is worried about O'Reilly's state of mind in a way that alerts the viewer to a new take on these types of arguments(and O'Reilly how is also interesting and educational to watch as he also is very smart). Michelle Mawkin a gifted voice of the-god-certain right can be annoying as a strong personality and no one dares challenge her. Geraldo did and who can blame him really. Fox seems to love the buzz as its good for biz so what's to be surprised about? I am sorry but from any sense he is an everyman American and I really can't detect any particular ethnic minority there. He is aware what people go through, but he doesn't seem to have any grievances. I consider him a pro-advocate of the human condition. He is about as mainstream as you can get for an liberal arts graduate. I still don't get the minority discussion people are dwelling on here or why people put him down.he is a freak of nature 209.101.236.168 04:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

This entire article is extremely slanted. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to tear someone's life apart. You can do it to anybody if you dig around enough--

I think two examples of Geraldo's courage not to mention integrity are his public denunciation of O.J. Simpson and his kissing of Michael Jackson. Gerado, a minority, publically maintained that O.J. Simpson was guilty of the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. He risked backlash from the minority community on this very divisive trial and I think this is an example of great courage that he steadfastly mantained that O.J. Simpson was guilty.

Second-- Geraldo's defence of Michael Jackson also showed courage because the press was so willing to crucify this man who is odd but not a pedophile at all, and has been the target of numerous false and predatory lawsuits and was finally made the object of a baseless witch hunt. Rivera has a lot of courage and has taken unpopular positions which seems to show up nowhere in this article.

Again-- people these days allow themselves to be manipulated too easily by low-lifes who make a hobby of tearing other peoples lives down. There is nothing easier than picking apart someone elses life, doing so takes little in the way of brains or character. And the people who do so as a habit, so often turn out to be much worse than those who they habitually tear down.

65.102.255.230 22:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree this article has a strong negative bias against Mr. Rivera. Way too much information in regards to Colbert and the Daily Show, and IMO, the unsourced speculation about why he may have been critical about Colbert the the Daily Show are inappropriate. - AbstractClass 17:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm UK-based, so don't have much exposure to Geraldo. My impression (hopefully fairly neutral) is that this article is very slanted. It seems very keen to paint the guy as a total buffoon. Gantlord 10:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Geraldo was still known as Jerry Rivera after he was in Law School. I know because I used to make fun of him because of it. He was working with the Young Lords when I met him. Since I was a rather radical Puerto Rican, I would kid him that his name had to be Geraldo. That's where Geraldo came from. On page 49 of his book (Exposing Myself) he acknowledges that I gave him that name. He was negotiating a contract at the time and he was told that Jerry or Gerry did not sound Puerto Rican so he started using Geraldo. By the way, I was the young woman he did not sleep with. He was having a hard time dealing with the fact that his mother trying to hide the fact his dad was from Puerto Rico. As to Geraldo being a Puerto Rican, he is. As far as Puerto Ricans are concern even if you are second or third generation born and raised in the States you are still one. Look at JLo.

Dubious article about a dubious character. This could be an interesting and fun article, but as it stands, it is nothing. Ortolan88

I'm in the UK so I only really know of this guy through reputation and the one or two times I've seen him on TV when I've been in the US, but according to IMDB [1] his birth name is Gerald Miguel Riviera. Has the fact that his real name is Jerry Rivers just come to light or is it a joke that I didn't get? Mintguy 16:06 Dec 10, 2002 (UTC)

Appears to be an Urban Legend (http://www.snopes.com/media/celebrity/geraldo.asp) --Philosophistry 13:14, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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He is a REAL Puerto Rican, whoever wrote this article knows nothing about him. He admitted it himself that he is from Puerto Rico and has family there.

Does Mr. Geraldo own a dictionary? He recently characterized the Minutemen as 'vigilantes' without, apparently, any understanding of the meaning of the word. The following is from Merriam-Webster.com:

Main Entry: vig·i·lan·te Pronunciation: "vi-j&-'lan-tE Function: noun Etymology: Spanish, watchman, guard, from vigilante vigilant, from Latin vigilant-, vigilans

a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law appear inadequate);

Watching for criminal activity and calling the appropriate authorities when a crime is committed (which is all the minutemen do) does not fit the definition stated above. To be a vigilante, you must act as 'judge, jury, and executioner' as the old saying goes, determining guilt and administering extra-legal punishment, something that the Minutemen most definitely do not do. In fact, none of the few instances of violence that has occurred concurrent with their activities has been perpetrated by them; it has been directed at them by groups who seem to specialize in spewing the very hatred, bigotry, and violence that they like to accuse the Minutemen of planning.

As far as bigotry is concerned, desiring an orderly society where the law is obeyed (the worst that the Minutemen can be accused of) is hardly bigotry; if hatred of Hispanics were the motivation then they would also be pushing to end legal immigration from Hispanic countries, which they are not.

I have no problem with immigration from other countries, including loosening the current restrictions on numbers, but I cannot condone breaking the law. If anyone wants to emigrate to this country, then they should come legally, period. When someone starts a quest for citizenship by violating the laws of the very country in which they wish to live, they are, at the very least, giving rise to substantial doubt about their qualifications for citizenship, one of the duties of which is to uphold the law.

Mr. Geraldo's comments seem designed for no purpose other than to showboat, and would appear to be an attempt to use the issue primarily to enhance his own popularity rather than provide reasoned debate or any actual news.

Since I have provided the URL for Merriam-Webster.com, perhaps Mr. Geraldo would be so kind as to navigate to that site and look up the primary definition of 'demagogue' and consider whether the term can be accurately applied to himself.

An article's talk page is not the place for bluster; it's for the dicussion of significant changes to the article. Please take this challenge to a more appropriate forum. 72.200.132.221 13:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The "knife-kill" thing needs to be clarified. Did Geraldo claim he killed someone?

Recent Career

I've removed the following line from "Recent Career":

Rivera has boasted of having a knife-kill on a Taliban officer.

Can anyone find a source for this?

71.139.13.134 22:27, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Stewart/Colbert

The sketch on the August 10. 2006 edition of The Daily Show is not "criticism" of Rivera. Its a sketch where he got is ass kicked, nothing more nothing less. Funny, yes. But not something worth mentioning in his Wikipedi entry.194.255.112.30 14:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I disagree, it is something which is provign to have a major effect on the way he is perceived by the public, and could have a lastign effect on his career Lurker ^oi! 14:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No it won´t. Daily Show viewers already know what they feel about Geraldo. O´Reilly viewers won´t be affected because they don´t watch the Daily Show and if they did this exchange wouldn´t. This is standard talk show exchanges and will most likely be forgotten in a few days. If it has a lasting effect, say in a month from now, THEN add it in. Compared to Jon Stewarts comments on Crossfire, this has neither the same power (Jon Stewart appearence was on the show that he criticised, not the usual tit-for-tat between talkshows) or the same lasting effect.

And please refrain from removing entire sections you happen to disagree with. Lurker ^oi! 14:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I went here and made an argument for my case. I didn´t just revert the edit. That´s the difference194.255.112.30 14:34, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

No, it is not valid criticism. The Daily Show skit was about comedy and satire, not serious discussion. As much as I dislike O'Reily and Rivera, "criticism" must be better sourced, and WP:BLP applies. 12.75.0.63 15:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand the opposition to mentioning the incident in the article, as it's a rift between two hit series and took place over multiple episodes. It's a sourcable piece of information that would certainly interest many readers. Seems wrong to cut it out just because it doesn't particularly interest you. I support re-instating it, but if it does get any further mention by Geraldo or O'Reilly, it's definitely worth mention. --relaxathon 17:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the WP:BLP speaks for itself. But consider this: Should the Jon Stewart page mention every incident where someone in the media have made fun of him? It doesn´t even mention this insident. Should this page mention every incident over the 35 years of Geraldos career where he was made fun of? The pages for every media person would become excessive long AND would violate WP:BLP.194.255.112.30 18:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Why not stick this in a "In popular culture" section? — TheKMan^talk 22:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You don't think it deserves a mention? I mean the show clearly showed the hypocrisy of what Geraldo stands for.

The last sentence is your opinion (and mine) but it is in no way NPOV and therefore doesn´t belong here.

Geraldo gave his public opinion to O'Reilly which wasn't even factual so Jon Stewart shows the hypocracy of his opinion by presenting factual evidence. He reminded everyone that Geraldo was kicked out of Iraq due to his poor judgement and showing clips of Geraldo's talk show with "moral superiority". Plus, Stewart apologized last night 8/14/06 with a giant mustache - controversy. At the very least, put a link at the end. Also, a recent Gallup Poll shows 56% of the public have an unfavoable opinion of Geraldo - just above Rosie O'Donnell. The fact that he is being teased by Stewart & Co. clearly shows in that poll. I think it should be mentioned as this isn't just a 5 second joke on the late show - the "controversy" lasted 2 episodes.

The page already address all the very unfavorable episodes Geraldo have been involved in. That Colbert makes jokes about it does not add to that. Stewart wears a mustache? Again: that has nothing to do with Geraldos life. And finally the fact that Geraldo has low approval ratings has with almost 100% certainty nothing to do with the Daily Show sketch. In fact if your figures are correct, the poll was made AFTER the sketch and it had anythin to do with how the general public view Geraldo, it worked in his FAVOR since a poll made just before the sketch (July 24-27, 2006) had a unfavorable rating of 63% ([2])194.255.112.30 05:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing in the WP:BIO guidelines that says articles should exclude this sort of criticism. It's from a notable source, and is well-known enough to be included. I'm reinstating it until a valid reason for leaving it out is presented Lurker ^oi! 13:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Noone is referring to WP:BIO. We are referring to WP:BLP. The Colbert piece, quote: "Geraldo are narcissists enthralled in their own overblown egos, projecting their own petty insecurities onto the world around them, inventing false enemies for the sole purpose of bolstering their sense of self-importance, itty-bitty Nixons minus the relevance or a hint of vision?" is pure slander. Just because someone is saying that stuff doesn´t make it a reliable source unless Colbert was citing from Geraldos psychologists journal.194.255.112.30 14:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I meant BLP. The colbert piece is not lies presented as fact, it is satire, so isn't slander. Ihis section follows the guidelines- it is sourced, relevant, presented with NPOV, doesn't present a minority view as a majority view, etc Lurker ^oi! 14:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a encyclopaedia. The idea of encyclopaedias is to make a informative and neutral describtion of the subjects in it. You can not use satire to do that. You misunderstand the conceptof a source. A source in an encyclopaedia should be credible and live up to the general purpose of the encyclopaedia (informative, neutral etc.). When you use satire as a source to describe Geraldo you are - with open eyes - using a source that describes him in an deliberate inaccurate way. The quote could be used in Colberts page to describe HIS TV persona, not to describe Geraldo.194.255.112.30 16:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I added a bit mentioning it to "Recent activity". It doesn't merit its own section and doesn't need all the details, but IMO it's worth noting. That's all. - Kudzu1 04:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I removed the section. I figure cooler heads have prevailed and acknowledge the trivial satire done by other people doesn´t belongs in an encyclopaedia,despite how much we feel the person satired is an ass.90.184.254.184 18:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

50,000

There was a sentence reading:

During the U.S. war in Afghanistan in 2001, he was derided for falsely claiming to be reporting from the scene of a friendly fire incident which in actuality had occurred 50,000 miles away.

I am not au fait with this incident, but clearly that number was wrong. Since I was unable to substitute another, I merely cut it. The sentence works without it.B00P 00:32, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Gun

didnt geraldo carry a sidearm during his reporting in iraq? thats a big no-no for a noncombatant in a war zone to do -Lordraydens 04:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I would think that would depend on the warzone. Or are you an expert in such matters? TastyCakes 17:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Checking his user page, I'd call him an expert. Gorn Eater

Afganastan isn't your typical warzone.71.74.70.152 08:57, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

But Geraldo was Jerry Rivers... once

Perhaps I’m showing my age, but I distinctly remember the “Jerry Rivers Show” back in Los Angeles. It was a talk radio program, hosted by none other than Geraldo Rivera. This was back in the mid-1960s, just prior to his stint at law school.

I cannot vouche for Mr. Rivera’s intentions as to the name change. But some of us who do remember Jerry Rivers reappearing as “Geraldo Rivera” thought that he tried to appear non-Hispanic in order to get employed within the media industry. As it later became popular to broadcast minority voices, he changed names and identities.

1988; chair.

I do wish f/ more written about the chair.

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 03:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC) this is so mean....i love geraldo rivera and y'all are talking mean about him....he is not gay and he is not a butt...

No he wasn't: http://www.snopes.com/media/celebrity/geraldo.asp

-The Talking Sock talk contribs 16:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

This article needs a lot of repair

I dislike Geraldo immensely, but this article has a lot of misinformation and needs to be repaired. I'm not going to attempt to do it myself right now because it is so hard to distinguish what is fact and what is made up in some cases. -particularly with Geraldo where many of the things he has done are pretty ridiculous. That said, I know that some of the information in this article is exaggerated. I think the part about him doing magic, and the mention of it throughout the article is probably unfounded. I couldn't find information for that anywhere. There are many more examples. 24.153.178.198 10:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Columbia Alum???

No where in the article does it mention that he went to Columbia, yet he listed at the bottom as a Columbia alumnus!

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/R/htmlR/riverageral/riverageral.htm states that he attended Columbia's School of Journalism, so it is valid, apparently --tims 08:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It was Sylvia Chase who did the news story

The article states that: "Geraldo Rivera was fired after he did a news story of Marliyn Monroe and JFK and RFK". It was Sylvia Chase who did the news story. After Mr. Arledge refused to air it; Mr. Rivera critized him and was fired. Ms. Chase quit "20/20", although she returned to ABC News many years later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.80.61.10 17:48, 11 January 2007 (UTC)Bennett Turk204.80.61.10 (talk) 17:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC).

I've seen some biased articles before, but this...

...this really is too much. I mean, the main section of this article is titled "Career and Controversies". And most of the time it focuses more on the latter. If you want to write about his controversies, fine, but make it a seperate section, don't imply that his whole career is controversial. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.164.230.221 (talk) 08:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Manson

How about some info on the interview with Charles Manson. That was a relatively important part of his career. Bueller 007 15:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC) He is plainly just an asshole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.116.70.19 (talk) 17:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

What I don't understand is why Geraldo included Manson in a documentary about Satanism?16:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)The murders weren't Satanic.And the article doesn't state much about his interview with Manson.I read the article on Geraldo just for that reason.

7 April 2007

Highly publicized since 8 hours ago? Let's trim this section down until we find out if anyone actually cares. AlexeiSeptimus 07:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Al Capone

Am I the only one here even slightly confused as to why this article fails to mention Al Capone's Vault? I mean, c'mon. That was a huge turning point in his career, in addition to being an extremely well-known peice of modern cultural history. Also, it was freakin' hilarious. --161.253.47.99 19:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hear, hear! I couldn't believe the article made no mention of this. I remember as a young kid watching that fiasco on live TV. One of the funniest things I think I've ever seen in my life is watching Geraldo walk of the set, shrugging, after he opened the vault and found: nothing. I also seem to remember a similar show he did about exploring the sunken Titanic. Maybe I'll do the homework and add a section about Capone's Vault. Cris Varengo 00:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Just found a separate article about it. Check it out: Al Capone's Vault. Enjoy! Cris Varengo 00:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

this is a bit funny

I added this in, Keith Olbermann nominated Geraldo Rivera as "Best Person in the World." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17989701/ --Dark paladin x 16:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Virginia tech

the entire section of "Virginia Tech coverage" has no wikilinks on the massacre itself, or the assailant, Cho. This should be changed promptly.--PoidLover 21:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Slant changed directions, but is still there

I, personally, do not know anything about Geraldo Rivera. I merely know his name, that he's a journalist, and that alot of people hate him (I don't know why). But, in the first paragraph alone of the page now, it says "He is a true American hero." Honestly, this sounds like an opinion rather than a fact. He could easily be a hero to a group of people such as a minority group, an age group, or something like that, but to say "American hero" implies at least a national appreciation of him, which would be hard to find solid proof of. It's hard to say that even a President is a true american hero most of the time (nothing against Bush is implied).

I suggest having the page protected in some way until a neutral biography can be written. That's just my two cents. Ovni 18:15, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Not even close to Neutral

"Attempting to salvage what was left of his reputation, Rivera held one of these bottles aloft for the camera and excitedly stated that it had contained "bootleg moonshine gin"" 24.81.11.152 (talk)Tristan —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC). Sentence edited accordingly.Desertpapa (talk) 19:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

ethnicity/nationality of the mother

While at it, how come his father is PR and his mother is only her religion? What religion did his father have? Im guessing not jewish. Where is his mother from? Germany? NY? Holland? If her ethnicity is truly jewish, well what type of jewish ethnicity is she then? sephardic, hassidic, askhenazi? I dont think you can set someones ethnicity/nationality as their religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.41.19 (talk) 00:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

This is an excellent point. The background of his parents is unbalanced. The addition of both the religion of his father and the national origin of this mother would improve the bio. 76.212.1.218 (talk) 04:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks drunk

Can you get a better picture of Geraldo? He looks drunk on the one featured at the top of the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.101.117 (talk) 04:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

While at it, how come his father is PR and his mother is only her religion? What religion did his father have? Im guessing not jewish. Where is his mother from? Germany? NY? Holland? If her ethnicity is truly jewish, well what type of jewish ethnicity is she then? sephardic, hassidic, askhenazi? I dont think you can set someones ethnicity/nationality as their religion.

New Photos

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Geraldo3.jpg

Current image

I just uploaded the other 2 good pictures I took at the same event. The one of him speaking is certainly more dignified, but it's also a little softer. Then the other one from when he was signing autographs is marred by the other cameras in the shot, but his face is clearly visible. I leave it to others to decide which photo is best. --stephen (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

drug activity

Someone said that if enough people would email you that maybe you could do a segment about the issue with the doctor's in Florida and the pill situation. That would be a good thing if you would, I'm just trying to do things that might help in some way. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.224.100 (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

"Geraldo Rivera, known by his television name of Geraldo Rivera"

Uh, yeah, is that really needed? Zazaban (talk) 19:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Now It Can Be Told

As I recall, Rivera's Now It Can Be Told was a notable early 1990's TV news feature, easily far significant than the one-shot Al Capone's vault special. Naaman Brown (talk) 23:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC) (ed for typo)

Controversies

The article mentions a "third controversy" but only two are listed. I don't want to change that to "second" w/o posting this first. 204.16.25.238 (talk) 14:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

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U of A?

Geraldo Rivera did attend the University of Arizona, but I do not see it mentioned anywhere in this article!! Curvebill (talk) 16:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

"In 1972"

In 1972, the shows 20/20 and Nightline did not exist. This sentence should be divided to reflect time frames accurately. Please find out when Rivera first worked on these shows, which must have been many years later.

Wikedit9 (talk) 15:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Popular Culture

May someone edit that his show took place in the episode "Vidiots" of Beavis and Butthead? Beavis uses "Geraldo" as his nickname in a dating agency. I cant edit the article for reasons i dont know. --Koronenland (talk) 08:11, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Occupy Wall Street edits.

The following section has been repeatedly tweaked by 67.163.161.132: "On October 10, 2011, Rivera was filmed by Russia Today being jeered by the Occupy Wall Street protesters at Liberty Square. The crowd chanted, "FOX News lies!" until Rivera and his camera crew left the protesters." The edits seem to be anti-Occupy Wall Street, but are poorly explained. #1: Describes the protesters as "idiots standing in the street. No edit summary. #2: Removes the entire section. No edit summary. #3: Removes "FOX News lies!" Edit summary: "Deleted irrelevant portions." (What they were chanting, of course, explains why they were chanting.) #4: Again removes "FOX News lies!" Edit summary: "Redundant." (Not at all explained previously that the chanting was anti-FOX News.) The editor's only other edits are the unexplained removal of a timeline from Sean Hannity (no edit summary) and blanking their talk page (edit summary: "Annoying."). If anyone wishes to support the IP's edits, this is the place to do so. Otherwise, the reverts will continue, until such time as the IP is blocked and/or the article is protected from editing or their is reasonable discussion. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:57, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Said editor has now made a few more edits re this issue and is currently blocked for 31 hours. We can certainly discuss the issue when they return. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

For what it's worth, and I pray this adds clarity and agreement to this matter: I was viewing Fox News at the time the above referenced exchange occurred. Yes, "Fox News lies" was indeed chanted by the crowd at the "Occupy" protest. Furthermore, while broadcasting live Mr. Rivera made statements to the effect of "I'm on your side, I support you, I have been supporting your view", then left the location after (apparently) concluding his words went largely unheard by the demonstrators. His statements prior to attending the "Occupy" event were en-total supportive of the group, its positions, and motives. In-fact, he was the only show host employed by the Fox News Network harboring that position/opinion. While I'm no fan of Geraldo (in general), and procure my news from multiple sourcing, referencing a webcast dedicated to a largely negative political view of the United States, or any country (for that matter) can in no way be considered "position: neutral". In fact, the statement should more correctly / accurately be placed within the confines of the Russia Today page and not the page relating to this article. A politically neutral stance is best assessed by the reader who cannot conclude the political leanings of the author/writer/journalist. In conclusion, I strongly believe this section of the article should be amended to demonstrate such neutrality, thus helping to reinforce the credibility of Wikipedia in the eyes of everyone. PA MD0351XXE (talk) 09:40, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

To add this to the article, we need independent reliable sources making this observation. Otherwise, it is opinion/synthesis. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:45, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree, and would imagine neutral sourcing in this matter to not be a problem, the non-edited video must be available somewhere on-line , however, leaving the Occupy section of the article as-is does not appear the most viable of options. Accuracy should be the key factor in the conveyance of any subject matter. The quoted reference source is itself controversial. My initial visit to the article was for purposes of verification of the age of the subject, the aforementioned text stood out like a sore thumb - detracting from the quality of an otherwise fairly well written offering. That was, and is my purpose for posting within this section. PA MD0351XXE (talk) 01:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hoodie Photo

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The current photo of Geraldo in a hoodie probably isn't free and is likely a subtle dig at his recent [comments] in regards to Trayvon Martin. --Ichabod (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2012‎

I would like to [agree] I was just going to ask if that was the photo was an intentional choice. 198.96.35.36 (talk) 19:39, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks like my photo's been making the rounds. :) This was taken during the OWS protests back in October when he was doing coverage. --Dasgravyboat (talk) 21:10, 24 March 2012 (UTC)