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Opus Dei

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So I found the "Época" article which talks about Alckmin and the Opus Dei. The article itself mentions that despite his family history with the organization and his own links with an Opus Dei priest, he has explicitly denied being a member. --Dali-Llama 06:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the article also cites him carrying around a phrase written by Josmaría Escrivá, the founder of the Opus Dei, in his wallet, having "The Way" (most important book written by Escrivá) as his favorite book and receiving "spiritual orientation" from a member of the organization in the Palace. I think that's enough to say the governor "has been linked to Opus Dei". Anonymous

In an interview during the election season in 2006, journalist, educator and [media consultant] Carlos Alberto di Franco explicitly owned up to being the governor's Opus Dei supernumerary and advisor. Di Franco is a frequent contributor to the editorial pages of the conservative Estado de S. Paulo and his M.A. journalism program is an extension course of the University of Navarra -- an Opus Dei institution of higher learning. [It is speculated] that Alckmin may have distanced himself from the movement in recent years, but when he served on the city council of Pindamonhangaba (say it three times, I dare you) in the late 1970s, he moved to rename a street after Escrivá. His uncle, a Supreme Court justice under the dictatorship, was a highly influential evangelist for the Opus Dei prelacy as well -- some sources identify him as the founder of the order's presence in Brazil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CEBrayton (talk • contribs) 18:19, 19 December 2015 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.139.133.4 (talk • contribs) 07:42, 26 January 2006 -- CEBrayton[reply]

Brazil is a secular republic where the constitution mandates the separation of Church and State while guaranteeing at the same time freedom of religion. As such, the religious affiliation or preferences of Brazilian politicians are IMHO irrelevant as long as they do not interfere with government policy. As state governor, Alckmin has always upheld the supremacy of civil law over religious law, the secular and scientific orientation of public education, and non-interference of the state in private or public religious worship. Why should anyone care them if he is a conservative Catholic ? The emphasis on Alckmin's religious beliefs in the article lacks balance IMHO, is probably partisan/politically-motivated in nature and non-encyclopedic. I suggest editing it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.177.14.102 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 25 March 2006
In theory. In practice Real bills have "Deus seja louvado" (praise be to God) printed on them, Brazil has several religious holidays, and local governments sponsor religious festivals, even within São Paulo, you could see a large christmas tree being built and christmas lights being installed on Ibirapuera Park. Whether that was sponsored by city hall or the state government, saying Brazil is EFFECTIVELY a secular republic is somewhat of a stretch, as you can see there are active religous government policies. With the controversy of the very interpretation of what "freedom of religion" and Separation of Church and State means in the United States, you can see that as an example for why that is relevant in politics. On the other hand, this article is not only about politics, it is also about Alckmin, and any additional information should be welcome. Do sign your comments by the way. PHF 20:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2006 Election

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The statement that the Alckmin was confirmed as the PSDB's candidate on March 14 is, strictly speaking, inaccurate. While it is true that all other presidential hopefuls in the party have pulled out of the race in favor of Alckmin, it is also true on the other hand that Alckmin will not be officially confirmed as the PSDB's nominee for president until the party convention which is due to take place only in July I guess (but I'm not entirely sure). That important remark should be added in the article. BTW, I edited the line in the article to correct a few English grammar mistakes (e.g. "On March 14" instead of "In March 14" and "the PSDB confirmed" as opposed to "has confirmed", since the statement refers to a specific date in the past requiring that the simple past tense be used instead of the present perfect). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.177.14.102 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 25 March 2006

I honestly think it's a semantic discussion and does not change the outcome. If you'd like to put that statement, however, go for it.--Dali-Llama 04:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


After Cláudio Lembo followed Alckmin as governor of Sao Paulo, the external links to biographies of Alckmin are no longer active. I moved them to the talk page.

--Túrelio 07:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism?

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I think the article is unbalanced because it only talks about his political career. maybe add early life and comentaries that has criticize him? F3rn4nd0 02:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Mayor Elections

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Actually, Alckmin is running elections to São Paulo city major, and by the pools, he is in second, right behin Marta Suplicy.

He said, on his page, he was in harvard studyng city management, wich took about 5 months.

Also, something is missing here: "He was elected a federal deputy for two terms, (1983-1987 and 1987-1994), distinguishing himself by authoring consumer"

he was first State Deputy (in São Paulo State) and then Federal Deputy (twice, elected and re-elected by São Paulo State)

to the ones who talk portuguese, you can check this info on his website http://www.geraldo45.com.br/ (the other 3 links you gave on the article page are down)

(from his page:

"1982 Alckmin deixa a Prefeitura de Pindamonhangaba para disputar uma cadeira na Assembléia Legislativa, elegendo-se deputado estadual pelo PMDB, com 96.232 votos. (Alckmin left Pindamonhangaba Mayor to run a chair in the Assembléia Legislativa (in São Paulo - State Deputy) by PMDB, and won with 96.232 votes)

1986 Eleito deputado federal pelo PMDB, com 124.971 votos. (Elected Federal Deputy by PMDB, with 124.971 votes)

1990 É reeleito deputado federal, pelo PSDB, sendo um dos mais votados do partido. (Re-elected Federal Deputy, by PSDB, being one of most voted in the party) "

Also from his website:

"2007 Terminada a disputa presidencial, passa cinco meses estudando Políticas Públicas na Universidade de Harvard, nos Estados Unidos. E aprofunda seus conhecimentos em viagens a grandes centros urbanos, como Berlim e Hamburgo, na Alemanha, onde fez cursos sobre administração de cidades. (Finished the presidential run, he spent 5 months studiyng Public Politics in Harvard University, in United States. And get deeper in his knowledge in trips to big urbans centers, like Berlin and Hamburg, in Germany, where he studied about cities managements)"

Hope I had helped Marcelo Luís Pereira —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.81.165.250 (talk) 21:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Elections:

Alckimn was just elected the new Governor of São Paulo State (again) with more than 11 milions votes, leaving Aloisio Mercadante, from PT, in second on the pool. As Alckmin achieved majority of the votes (around 50,60%) he is the new elected governor os São Paulo, to take ofice in 1 january 2011.

You must update the page ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.1.154.45 (talk) 03:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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