Talk:George Thomas Rudd

George Thomas? Vicar of Sockburn? Dead March 4th, 1847?

On http://www.mocavo.com/Proceedings-of-the-Cleveland-Naturalists-Field-Club-1903-04-Volume-2/136859/240 it says:

The following report on Beetles occurring in the Cleveland District consists chiefly of records made in the early part of last century by the late Rev. G. T. Rudd, M.A., and L. Rudd. Many of them may be found published in Stephens' "Manual of British Coleoptera (1839)." G. T. Rudd was Vicar of Sockburn and resided for a number of years at Worsall Hall, near Yarm. He died in London on March 4th, 1847, at the age of 52. He appears to have been a regular correspondent of Stephens, as may be seen by a reference both to the "Manual" and the "Illustrations of British Entomology" (Coleoptera) (1828).

If so, we have a George Thomas Rudd that was Clerk of Sockburn according to http://services.english-heritage.org.uk/ResearchReportsPdfs/082_2007WEB.pdf page 56:

D/sh.H732. Counterpart of lease between Rev. George Thomas Rudd, Clerk of the Parish of Sockburn and Henry Collingwood Blackett of 16 Portman St, Middlesex. 18th November 1833

And note the line for Worsall Hall in https://books.google.se/books?id=Wf80AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA70:

"Worsall Hall, 3 miles S.S.W. of Yarm, Rev. George Thomas Rudd, M.A."

In Transactions of the Entomological Society of London, page xxxiii:

"Rudd, Rev. George Thomas, M.A., F.L.S., Marton-lodge, Stockton-on-Tees."

--Episcophagus (talk) 13:47, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

He obviously lived in North Yorkshire and Hampshire, but did he live in Wiltshire?

Except for one reference of having collected with Samouelle in Wiltshire (in George Samouelle's Entomological Cabinet "The insect is found in sand-pits and also on heaths in the months of May and June ; we have met with it in Wiltshire, when collecting with our much respected friend the Rev. G. T. Rudd, now of Stockton upon Tees" and "...it was not until on a visit to Wiltshire, to our friend the Rev. G. T. Rudd, that we had the pleasure of seeing it alive. In a fir plantation near Kimpton...") all other references (and also the reference to Stockton-on-Tees in Samouelle) to G(eorge) T(homas) Rudd's whereabouts are in North Yorkshire or Co Durham, except for that he lived in Kimpton, Hampshire in 1828 (which Samouelle seems to have confused with Wiltshire - unless some borders have changed [I'm from Sweden, so how should I know?]). He was obviously Vicar of Sockburn (see post above) in the 1830's. "Worsall Hall, 3 miles S.S.W. of Yarm, Rev. George Thomas Rudd, M.A." (see post above) and "Rev. G. T. Rudd, M.a., F.L.S., Croft, near Darlington" (in John Curtis, 1834, British entomology vol 11) both point towards Yorkshire. And most of of the mentioned insects he collected are from localities in North Yorkshire or from Kimpton, Hampshire. His brother, L. Rudd, lived at Marton Lodge (which burned down in 1832 [1]), in 1786 built by Bartholomew Rudd [2] (1769-1829, according to [3]) - see Stephens, 1828, Illustrations of British Entomology vol 1, page 177.

So, what is known (perhaps a lot is known, but that knowledge is not shown on Wikipedia): He was born 1794 or 1795 (as he is said to have died at age 52 in 1847), most probably in North Yorkshire at Marton Lodge (as his brother L. Rudd lived there and it was built by Bartholomew Rudd who might well have been their father). He then got an M.A. somewhere (possibly Oxford - pure speculation!) and certainly lived in Kimpton, Hampshire, (not that far from Oxford!) in 1828 (and probably some years thereabout). He was back in (probably "back in") Yorkshire some years later as a Clerk/Vicar of Sockburn and lived in Worsall Hall and in Croft. Said to have died in London (see post above) on March 4th, 1847.

--Episcophagus (talk) 10:56, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

My guess on Oxford seems to be incorrect as The Cambridge University Calendar 1830 p. 314 lists him as M.A. of St John's College, Cambridge. And http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/DisplayPerson.jsp?PersonID=65314 says that he took his B.A. there - and also that he was ordained to deacon in 1818 and to priest in 1819 and that he was:

Curate Horsted Keynes (West Sussex) 1818

Curate Shipton Bellinger (Hampshire) 1819

Curate Kimpton (Hampshire) 1821

Vicar Sockburn (North Yorkshire) 1833

He is listed as M.A. in 1821 (http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/DisplayAppointment.jsp?CDBAppRedID=278741)

and as B.A. in 1819 (http://db.theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/DisplayOrdination.jsp?CDBOrdRedID=132291)

Thus it seems that he studied in Cambridge and moved to West Sussex in 1818, to Hampshire in 1819 and to North Yorkshire in 1833.

--Episcophagus (talk) 12:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)