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Years

"During the past 14 years" is a dangerous phrase to use, as it quickly becomes outdated. It would be better to state the actual years, if known. --Jsnow 01:51, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Quakers & cut & pasting

Since we're copying directly from the "About" page of GFU's official web site, I went ahead and added "by Quaker pioneers" back in. Kind of weird to be missing in the first place, since the rest of the article is word for word (there's no indication that it's copyrighted material). I'll probably come back soon and revamp the whole article, but if enough people care, let's discuss it.--Bltpdx 10:15, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Criticism

Where is the criticism of its theology and incongruity with modern science? Where are the criticisms of its overwhelming conservative political stances without progressive amelioration? It should be at least noted.

Student Newspaper

Is there a student newspaper? If so, it could go here: [1].--DerRichter (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a student newspaper called The Crescent. I'll add it to that list, thanks! Pcrackenhead (talk) 21:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

"Christian university"

This term implies an evangelical school, I think - that is to say, not simply a university affiliated with a Christian denomination, but a "Christian university" as opposed to a "secular university". Schools associated with mainline protestant groups like the Quakers should probably avoid such phrasing (as should Catholic schools). john k (talk) 22:11, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Transgender

On April 8, 2014, user 208.87.107.67 (talk) added the following to the introductory paragraph for George Fox University: "In recent years the school has come under fire for biased and potentially illegal treatment of LGBTQ students, including a 2014 incident where a transgender student was denied appropriate on campus housing." The source that was cited was PQ Monthly: http://www.pqmonthly.com/trans-student-denied-campus-housing-george-fox-university. I have moved this edit here to the talk page for discussion on the questions of verifiability, objectivity, and notability. Although the fact that a transgender student has made a legal complaint about the school is verifiable, the statement "In recent years the school has come under fire for biased and potentially illegal treatment of LGBTQ students ..." is a broad and sweeping charge that rests on a single source. Furthermore, the claim of "appropriate" is a matter of opinion. If this legal complaint by a single individual is even notable enough for inclusion here, there surely is no reason to include it in the introductory paragraph for the page at this point. --Tytonidae (talk) 22:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

While this incident has made the news, covering it in such depth would be WP:UNDUE, as would covering it in the lede. Plus, as noted, the statement is far from neutral. Much like we treat the accused as innocent until proven guilty, anyone can file a complaint (which here is not the same as a legal complaint you file with the court to initiate a lawsuit), but unless the DOJ says they did something improper under Title IX after an investigation, it is simply inflammatory language meant to sensationalize the situation. I'm not saying what GFU was or was not correct, but Wikipedia is not some forum for an aggrieved party to air disputes or for furthering an agenda. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:21, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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