Talk:Geology Hall, New Brunswick, New Jersey

Geology Hall
	The skeleton of a mastodon discovered in Salem County in 1869
Established	1872
Location	Queens Campus section of Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States
Coordinates	40°29′55″N 74°26′47″E / 40.498588°N 74.446504°E
Website	geologymuseum.rutgers.edu
	U.S. National Historic Landmark
Built	1872
Architect	Henry Janeway Hardenbergh
Added to NRHP	1973

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December 2, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed
April 14, 2014	Featured article candidate	Promoted
July 16, 2022	Featured article review	Demoted
August 13, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 6, 2013. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the museum in Geology Hall* at Rutgers University displays a Ptolemaic-era female Egyptian mummy?*
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TFAR

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Geology Hall 2 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I could imagine an infobox, for example, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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FAR needed

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 01:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks neat. I'll review. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

"The museum was established in the same year" - not a big deal but as the previous sentence gives two years, this could be seen as ambiguous
- Clarified. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the lead needs to be expanded to cover more of the article's scope
Speaking of scope, since the article discusses the Rutgers Geology Museum as well as the building, the museum should be bolded in the lead and perhaps emphasized slightly more
- Bolded. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History

Not sure para 1 needs to lead with the 1872 founding, it feels a bit confusing to be told one date and then go immediately back to the 1830s.
- Moved mention of founding. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can we get slight context for Lewis Caleb Beck? (Even just a single word "geologist Lewis Caleb Beck" is fine)
- Job desc. added. Dude was something of a scientific polymath as I understand. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Para 3 sentence 1 feels like it's reading out of order, going from Henry to Jacob back to Henry - it would be tidier to put the clause about "the architect selected" first, I think, then you're going from Henry to Jacob cleanly.
- Done as suggested. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Context for Albert Huntington Chester?
- Job desc. added. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture

Section feels kind of skimpy compared to the fairly robust history section
- What is there is honestly all I could find on my own with the resources known to me. I have some contact information for relevant members of the Rutgers faculty, though, and I could inquire for more from them. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, it is what it is. We are only so good as the sources we have and it's certainly not enough to fail GA on. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:36, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see why it's here given that it's transitioning off the mention of the armory, but theft of muskets feels like it belongs in the history section
For the life of me I could not find a way to include this in #History. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts about the section swap mentioned below? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Swapped and required adjustments made. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 03:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if Architecture should be moved up ahead of History, which would allow the armory to be mentioned in History without surprising the user

Everything else

This is a total nitpick but I'm not sure Books and Articles needs a separate section under sourcing given that only one item in the bibliography falls outside it
- Distinction abrogated. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Commons:Category:Geology Hall (Rutgers) has some interesting images, this shot of the interior in particular: File:Rutgers-geology-interior_01.png
- Added. –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 19:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overall it's a well-written article that just needs some tweaks. Feel free to discuss if you don't agree with suggested changes. No concerns about sourcing reliability/source-text integrity. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 15:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Basically almost there. Slight expansion to the lead, response to the section swap suggestion, and we're good to go. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How's it look now? –♠Vamí _IV†♠ 03:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go my friend! Congrats on another GA :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]