Talk:Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tim riley (talk · contribs) 21:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments

This is plainly a comprehensive and authoritative piece. Before promoting it to GA I make a few minor suggestions about the prose:

• "Holding lands around Swanscombe in Kent, his tenure of these lands means" … seems to me a bit of a dangling participle: "holding lands, he…" would be fine, but I'm not sure about "holding lands, his tenure". I do not press the point.
  • "Holding lands around Swanscombe in Kent, he is often considered to have been the feudal baron of Swanscombe." work better for you?
• "Sometime after 1086" – I'd make "some time" two words, and a swift skim through the OED entry encourages me in that view, but again I do not press the point
  • Fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
• "was given control of Rochester Castle by Gundulf of Rochester, then the bishop" – there is nothing whatever wrong with the syntax, but to make sure nobody mistakes your meaning I'd say "Gundulf of Rochester, who was then the bishop" to make it absolutely plain that the control was not given by (i) Gundulf and then (ii) the bishop.
  • Fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
• "owed 2 marks" – a figure rather than "two"?
  • Fixed. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
• "Agnes' family" – in BrE this really ought to be "Agnes's".
  • I went with "The family of Agnes because "Agnes's" grates like sandpaper on my soul. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

That's my lot. Over to you and then we can wrap this up. Tim riley talk 21:15, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

• I think I got them all? Ealdgyth (talk) 12:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

• All fine. I laughed aloud at the horrifying effect of "Agnes's" on you.

Overall summary

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   Well referenced.

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   Well referenced.

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   Well illustrated.

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

   Well illustrated.

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

A pleasure to read and to review. Tim riley talk 14:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)