Talk:Geoff Bent/GA1

GA Review

Passed. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 09:58, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Ixtal (talk · contribs) 11:03, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing this over the next few days.

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.

Comments

Early life

I wonder if Bent began as a forward, playing at inside left, [...] would work better with the wikilink on "inside left", i.e. Bent began as a forward, playing at inside left, [...]. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 15:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added that link, but left the link on forward to the page as a whole. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 15:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Manchester United

I don't understand what the distinction is between trialist and amateur, or how one can join a professional club as an amateur. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 15:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, so I don't have a reference to hand for this, but amateurism stuck around in UK sport into the 1960s. As I understand, and I don't recall the details specifically, but a trialist was essentially an unpaid apprentice, who earned "boot money" ie. they did jobs such as cleaning the boots for senior players to earn some money. An amateur was a player with a second job, and the FA limited the amount they could be paid to a set amount, lower than a professional. A professional, was, well, professional! I'm planning to take this onto FA, so I assume from your uncertainty, you think it would be worth finding a source so that I can add a note explaining this? Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 15:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Harrias, yes I do think it is worth finding a source so that it can be explained. If you do find the source, I'd appreciate if you could add it to Amateur_sports#Association_football as well as the paragraph describing that phenomenon currently has a {{cn}} tag. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 16:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Byrne praised Bent, describing him as a "valuable prospect" who makes Byrne "strive to keep my position". This double repetition of Byrne's name reads awkwardly. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 15:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair. Rewritten this sentence, let me know how it is now. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 15:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

The neglected state of his grave has been a regular press story; in 1988 the Manchester Evening News ran a story, in which Bent's widow, Marion, said she could not afford to maintain the grave. I suggest you find a way to simplify or divide this sentence, as the semicolon followed by three commas makes it hard to read. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 15:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed her name; it is mentioned earlier anyway. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 15:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misc. Comments

I'll do a quick source review plus copyvio check once my comments above are addressed, but so far it looks like a fantastic article. Good work, Harrias. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 15:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ixtal: Thanks for the review. Responded to each point above. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 15:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Ixtal: Just wanted to give you a gentle nudge on this one. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 19:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the nudge, Harrias. Passed Copyvio detector so I'm passing the review. Congratulations! — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 09:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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