Talk:GeoEcoMar

What's its full, correctly written name?

This article says that it's Institutul National de Cercetare - Dezvoltare pentru Geologie si Geoecologie Marina (with no comma under any letter). The very top and the very bottom of the top page of GeoEcoMar's website agree. But ro:GeoMar says that it's simply Institutul Național de Cercetare și Dezvoltare (with commas).

I was going to say "diacritics", but the relevant article in Wikipedia (not a reliable source, I know) says "ș" and "ț" do not employ diacritics; they are instead entirely separate letters from "s" and "t". Neither that article, nor S-comma nor T-comma, says either that current Romanian orthography demands them or that it doesn't. (In practice, we can infer from the top page of GeoEcoMar's website that it doesn't.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:56, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

RUBIK Multimedia srl

'RUBIK Multimedia srl' is a company, not a person, so it can't be an author of the WWW page.
Removed. [1] --CiaPan (talk) 07:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Good edit, CiaPan; strange justification. I think it's quite normal to attribute written material to a company. The immediately odd thing here, though, is the name of the company. Why is a "multimedia" company writing about scientific research?

Here's what seems to have happened. In this edit, User:Ukexpat added this detail. Ukexpat used User:Zhaofeng Li's utility reFill. How does this look at (Romanian-language) web pages and determine their authorship? In these instances, I'll guess that it did so via this line within the source:

<meta name="author" content="RUBIK Multimedia srl"/>

We can't assume that people will use meta name="author" (which if I understand right is just an ad hoc sort of thing anyway, undefined by W3C) to identify the author(s) of the text in the web page.

None of this would arise here if User Sorin Ion, so keen to create the article, would return to this article and do some work on it. -- Hoary (talk) 09:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I found that meta author item, too. Probably GeoEcoMar has outsourced the page design job to RUBIK company, hence the note. Based on the company name I can imagine also that RUBIK Multimedia was hosting the GeoEcoMar WWW service at some time in the past – but I have no time and no need to investigate that.

Anyway, if the author is not mentioned personally in the page contents I would refrain from filling the 'author' parameter to {{cite web}}, despite on the presence and contents of the meta header.

What concerns to standardization, the author meta-header is given as an example, but not defined in HTML 4.01 (see Specification, 7.4.4 Meta data – http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/global.html#h-7.4.4)

However, the HTML5 Overview lists some 'standard names' for meta, and author is one of them (see 4.2.5 The meta element → 4.2.5.1 Standard metadata names: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/document-metadata.html#standard-metadata-names)

Anyway that does not make the header mandatory, so one may use it and utilize the info, but should not rely on its presence or format.
--CiaPan (talk) 10:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Well done for going straight to W3C to check the facts of the matter: I'd been too lazy to do so myself. But W3C says pretty much what I'd expected. ¶ I suppose one take what reFill provides as suggestions and then apply a human brain to each of these suggestions. (Its manual might usefully point this out.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:26, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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