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Date	Process	Result
December 26, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed
July 13, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 8, 2007. The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that in the 1947 college football rankings, southern voters refused to vote for the integrated Michigan Wolverines football team with black stars such as Gene Derricotte?
A news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on April 6, 2023.
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GA Review

I do not feel that this this article meets GA standards at this time due to a lack of comprehensiveness. There is little about his personal life and while I understand that such things can be hard to find, there are still some important things such as his date of birth and place of birth that are missing. If you feel this review is inaccurate or unfair, feel free to resubmit it. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 20:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Gene Derricotte/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. Hi, I'll be reviewing the article below:

In the lead, four of the five sentences start with "He..." This should be changed.
- Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 12:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could you perhaps split his early years and college career into seperate sections? More info would be needed for his early years, but it would improve the article.
- Since we only have a half a paragraph of pre-college information and no obvious source for more such information, this type of split does not seem acheivable at this time.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 11:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After the first sentence of "Early years and college," there is an interesting phrase "("Foster Ohio," Chicago Defender, 6 August 1938, p. 22)". And later on "(Richter, 1998)" Are these malformed refs?
- fix refs.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 12:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - The article still needs clarification/cleanup on the Richter 1998 references. Is this a book? Something else? Cbl62 (talk) 03:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Check the diffs and see who added them. There was a group of professional researchers who lent a hand.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Oddly, the NCAA recognizes that he had 347 return yards on 14 returns that season (24.8)." needs a ref.
- This refers to the same ref as the prior sentence. I have added it to this sentence.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 11:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Some noted that every Southern AP voter had voted for Notre Dame, which had yet to integrate, whereas three of Michigan's star players (Derricotte, Bob Mann and Len Ford) were African-American." needs a ref.
- The ref at the end of the paragraph is for the whole paragraph.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Alright. Malinaccier (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Should the header "Professional career" be changed? He only spent less than a single season in Pro football.
- No his professional career includes his military career and time in the Dental profession.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Alright, sorry for the misunderstanding. Malinaccier (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The whole second paragraph of "Professional career" needs references.
- The unreferenced facts in the paragraph were from a ref at the end of the paragraph. There were probably later additions to the paragraph, which incorporated intervening facts to cause the source confusion.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 11:49, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Derricotte was inducted into the U-M Hall of Honor in 1987." is a one sentence paragraph. This should be incorporated into another part of the article or expanded upon.
- Rearranged.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Another messed up ref at the end of "Professional career"?
- What do you mean?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm placing this on hold. Malinaccier (talk) 04:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photo Error

I have spoken with Mr. Derricotte. He states this is a photo of Bob Mann. A friend and former teamate of his. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogich24 (talk • contribs) 01:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If this is an error, I would like to fix it. The 1948 Michiganensian has this photograph displayed prominently and identifies it as Derricotte, not Bob Mann (American football). Given that we have a reliable (though admittedly not infallible) published source identifying the picture as Derricotte, can you provide something further in the way of substantiation about your conversation with Mr. Derricotte? Does he have another photograph that he would be willing to release under a free license so that it could be used in the article? If convenient, you can let me know here or at my talk page. Cbl62 (talk) 06:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a comparison of the posted picture and the picture of Derricotte from the 1946 team portrait here (Derricotte is #41 in the back row), the posted picture doesn't look like a match. Based on a comparison of the posted image and the picture of Bob Mann (American football) (# 81) in the same team portrait, your point appears to be accurate. I will go ahead and pull the posted picture and upload a different one for Derricotte. Cbl62 (talk) 06:38, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have now switched photos. Thanks for the information. If Mr. Derricotte has any other photos (perhaps from his football career, his Tuskegee days, or something more recent) that he would be willing to allow us to use in the article, let me know. I would be happy to help explain the process for uploading. Cbl62 (talk) 07:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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