Talk:Gear inches

2006 Discussion on Cleanup

What are the objections to this article that require cleanup? adamrice 15:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You mean other than the fact that this entry can be found verbatim at http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Gear+inch ??? IMHO, the section on gain ratio needs to be deleted or moved to the See Also section. The concept of gain ration tries to correlate the power requirements of dissimilarly geared drive trains. Gear inches are concerned with distance traveled per pedal revolution, regardless of the power requirements. Foxman 16:56, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Foxman: Wow, Holy cow, it is exactly like the one at the link you provide. In fact, if I surf around that site, I see that every wikipedia article appears to be ripped off from that site! Sorry if that sounds snide, but those guys are just ad-framing wikipedia. Please don't use that as the basis for a complaint. IMHO, the section on gain ratio is directly related to gear inches. Yes, it's a different concept, but very closely related, and I don't think one paragraph on it here really sends the article astray. adamrice 18:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's doubtful they are ad-framing wiki since the entries for "gain", "sucrose", and "Pope Pius XII" are all very different in format and content. However, there is a disclaimer in small print at the bottom of the page at freedictionary stating they copied their definition of gear-inch from wiki. My bad.

The entry goes astray in the first sentence. It states that a gear-inch is "a system that assigns numerical measurements to bicycle gear ratios, to indicate how low or high a gear is." This is a rather incomplete definition, since knowing only the values of the gears will not solve for gear inch.

In the last paragraph, it claims "both 'gear inches' and 'meters of development' are concerned with the distance travelled per turn of the pedals." I absolutely agree. Unfortunately, it then states that the measurements for gear inches and meters of development will, "in some ways", vary if the crank arm varies. That's patently untrue.

Two bicycles in the same gear, with the same sized wheels, but different crank lengths will travel the exact same distance per pedal revolution. The one with a longer crank might be perceived as a little easier to turn, assuming the other levers (foot, tibia, femur) are constant between the two riders. Foxman 20:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"This is a rather incomplete definition" -- The point is arguable. As a lead-in to a fairly nerdy concept, I think it does the job. "in some ways" -- You are right. This is poorly worded. The underlying concept, of course, is mechanical advantage, and I will amend. Clearly you understand this stuff, and you shouldn't feel shy about fixing it. adamrice 22:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup Complete

I've removed the "cleanup" warning. adamrice 12:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]