Talk:Gauri Ma

Copyright concerns

I was asked to evaluate this article for copyright concerns. I find the following:

From the Foreword of [1]:

Since 1895 the ashram as a convent has made it possible for many women to lead dedicated spiritual lives. Over two hundred nuns presently live at three centers, the headquarters at 26 Gauri Mata Sarani, Calcutta, India, 70004, and branch centers at Navadwip and Giridih. Each center has a free girls' school, boarding for students, and accommodations for women, whether as guests or women in need. Classes are mostly taken by the sannyasinis and brahmacharinis. The administration of the institution is entirely in the hands of women. At the base is the Matrisangha, comprising the sannyasinis of the order, and at the apex are the trustees, appointed under the trust established by the revered Gauri Mata. The trustees are assisted by an executive committee and an advisory board, the membership of which is held by men and women.

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Since 1895 the ashram as a convent has made it possible for many women to lead dedicated spiritual lives. Over two hundred nuns presently live at three centers, the headquarters at 26 Gauri Mata Sarani, Calcutta, India, 70004, and branch centers at Navadwip and Giridih. Each center has a free girls' school, boarding for students, and accommodations for women, whether as guests or women in need. Classes are mostly taken by the sannyasinis and brahmacharinis. The administration of the institution is entirely in the hands of women. At the base is the Matrisangha, comprising the sannyasinis of the order, and at the apex are the trustees, appointed under the trust established by the revered Gauri Mata. The trustees are assisted by an executive committee and an advisory board, the membership of which is held by men and women.

From [2]:

For nearly three years Gauri Ma practiced austerity and went on pilgrimages in that part of the country. She spent time at many famous places of pilgrimage: Devaprayag, Jwalamukhi, Amarnath, Jamnotri, and Gangotri.

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For nearly three years Gauri Ma practiced austerity and went on pilgrimages in that part of the country. She spent time at many famous places of pilgrimage: Devaprayag, Jwalamukhi, Amarnath, Jamnotri, and Gangotri.

From this source (just to verify that it could not be backwards copy, I confirmed its age:

Several years later, after she had begun her work serving women in accordance with the teachings and instructions of Sri Ramakrishna, Gauri Ma went on a second tour of the South. On this second visit, she went to Sholapur as a guest of Sri Haripada and Srimati Indumati Mitra, disciples of Swami Vivekananda. From there she went to Pandharpur, Poona, Belgaum, and Bombay. At Poona she visited a girls' high school and a home for widows that had been founded by Professor Karve, where she had discussions with Professor Karve about the lives of widows in India. During the same trip Gauri Ma met and had several discussions with the renowned and highly respected Lady Ramabai Ranade.

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Several years later, after she had begun her work serving women in accordance with the teachings and instructions of Sri Ramakrishna, Gauri Ma went on a second tour of the South. On this second visit, she went to Sholapur as a guest of Sri Haripada and Srimati Indumati Mitra, disciples of Swami Vivekananda. From there she went to Pandharpur, Poona, Belgaum, and Bombay. At Poona she visited a girls' high school and a home for widows that had been founded by Professor Karve, where she had discussions with Professor Karve about the lives of widows in India. During the same trip Gauri Ma met and had several discussions with the renowned and highly respected Lady Ramabai Ranade.

While these edits were all by one contributor, subsequent edits by IPs have also consisted of copied content. I've located content taken from Ramakrisha as we saw him, and content hs also been copied from website. Beginning on 1 September 2012, from [3] and thereafter irregularly other content from that website.

Given the extensive influx of copyrighted content, I have restored the last presumed clear version of this article.

Please be sure content added is carefully evaluated for ongoing copyright issues. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Gauri Ma

Dear Wikipedia,

I am the President of a religious order that is being greatly offended and affected by the biased claim that the founder of our order Sannyasini Gauri Ma is referred to as "a prominent indian disciple of Sri Ramakrishna".

Gauri Ma is known as the only woman "monastic disciple" of Sri Ramakrishna and founder of our headquarters Sri Saradeshwari Ashram in 1895, in Kolkatta, India. I am a nun and head of the order in America which is a branch center in Ganges, MI. USA. What is being said of our founder Sannyasini Gauri Ma is deliberately affecting our vows, our funds, and our expansion of the convent. It is personal and deliberate.

I did try to edit and found my inserts deleted. Not only is this affecting my convent but our headquarters in Kolkatta, India. Please restore my inserts to our Founder who is known as "Sannyasinni Gauri Mata Puri Devi a Monastic direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna". Please restore in edit or immediately inform me best how to proceed.

Sincerely, Mataji Gaurima Puri, President Mothers Trust, Mothers Place Ramakrishna Sarada Ashram Lakeshore Interfaith Community 6676 122nd Ave. Ganges, MI., USA www.motherstrust.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mataji Gaurima Puri (talk • contribs) 01:53, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Greetings Gaurima Puri and welcome to Wikipedia,

You have said,

I did try to edit and found my inserts deleted

But, those were added by Shantdey. Also I can see this is your first edit here, so I am confused. BTW, those were copyright violations, see WP:Copyvio for more information! Mainly in those edits someone tried to add copyright violated portions and add Mothers Trust website link multiple times.

affected by the biased claim

Describe in details what is biased in the article with support of WP:RS. We'll make changes here! --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Didi, I appreciate your concern, but I truly doubt that there was any deliberate attempt to hamper your good work. From what I understand, the only reason for reverting your edits relate to copyright issues. Why not rewrite the lead to the article in a fashion that would not face such a problem? Assuming that the facts are correct, you might write something like:

Gauri Ma (1857 – March 1, 1938), born Mridani, was not only a prominent Indian disciple of Ramakrishna but also the only woman accepted by Ramakrishna as a direct monastic disciple. Gauri Ma was a companion of Sarada Devi, Ramakrishna's wife, and the founder of Kolkata's Saradeswari Ashram. Today, Gauri Ma's Saradesvari Ashram has branches in many countries of the world.^{insert the necessary reference here}

––Abhidevananda (talk) 12:48, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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