Talk:Gangstas (song)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 16:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will start my review of this article later today, but might not have it wrapped up until tomorrow depending on my life schedule. --K. Peake 16:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Infobox looks good!
"the real name of Alex Petit and Ellis Newton." → "the real names of Alex Petit and Ellis Newton, respectively."
Merge the production sentence with the one that follows it, but replace this release info with the song being the last recorded for the album because that is notable for the lead unlike a non-individual release date
The source didn't say this was the last song recorded for the album. It was Swirv's last song he recored with Pop before his murder.
"his dislike for Tekashi 6ix9ine." → "his dislike for 6ix9ine."

Not done sources go by Tekashu 6ix9ine.

Sources sometimes refer to people by alternate versions of their names though and if you know who it is, you can list the proper name in the article; 6ix9ine's wiki does not refer to him as Tekashi 6ix9ine at any point, only either the surname or forename (mostly the former of the two). --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge the second para with the first, as it is only two sentences long
""Gangstas" received generally positive reviews" → "The song received generally positive reviews"
"vocals to that of" → "vocals to those of"
Wikilink G-Unit
"the song became a successful album track, reaching number 37" → "the song reached number 37"
"Billboard Hot 100 while" → "Billboard Hot 100, while"

Background

Retitle to Background and recording
"recording songs for" → "recording songs mostly intended for"
Add release year of Meet the Woo 2 in brackets
"drums while Swirv worked on the melodies." → "drums, while Swirv worked on the melodies, before Pop Smoke recorded his vocals."
"called "Hotel Lobby". The producer said it" → "called "Hotel Lobby", with the producer saying it"
Introduce 50 Cent as "fellow rapper"
Does not really sound good when read out loud

You are correct in this context; probably introduce who he is in the release and reception section then since he's mentioned on numerous occasions in the article. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Target drill to Drill music
"separate song. CashMoneyAP remembered" → "separate song; CashMoneyAP remembered" because the two sentences are too short to be on their own
"was working post-production on the beat," → "was handling post-production of the beat,"
"who have the real name of Alex Petit and Ellis Newton." → "who have the real names of Alex Petit and Ellis Newton, respectively."
"by CashMoneyAP ad Smirv." → "by CashMoneyAP and Smirv."

Music and lyrics

"danger of '5% Tint' by Travis Scott." → "danger" of Travis Scott's "5% Tint" (2018)." to end the quote properly
The Variety ref should be used for the second sentence of the second para here instead since it is entirely focused on lyrics

This should come before the sentence about the beginning of the song due to it being about the New York-related lyrical content. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"unreleased track from the Get Rich or Die Tryin sessions"." → "unreleased track" from the sessions for 50 Cent's debut studio album Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2003)." for context

You missed this. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Slant Magazine part should be the sentence directly after The Independent
The first sentence from the NME ref should begin the second para, but remove the second from NME because we already know he disses 6ix9ine
"not liking fellow rapper Tekashi 6ix9ine:" → "not liking fellow rapper 6ix9ine:"

See my earlier comment. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Target synths to Synthesizer

Critical reception

Merge with the below section and retitle to Release and reception, as one para can be merged with two plus place the release date at the top of the section
"sounded a lot" → "sounds a lot"
"A.D. Amorosi of Variety stated that the song" → "Amorosi stated that the song"
"saying: "it's Pop Smoke's melodic" → "saying that "it's [Pop] Smoke's melodic" because the source only says "Smoke's melodic"
"and memorable" and called it" → "and memorable", and called it"
Wikilink G-Unit
"to imitate the young Curtis Jackson"." → "to imitate" a young 50 Cent." to avoid confusion, as this is his real name
Add the NME review because the opinion about how Pop Smoke comes back from the grave can be used in reception
"match Pop Smoke's proven" → "match Pop [Smoke's] proven"
"Slant's Lyons-Burt said the songs" → "Lyons-Burt said the song's"

You missed the apostrophe here. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Release and commercial performance

The commercial info should be the third para of the above section for the merger proposal
"It further peaked at" → "The song further peaked at"
Positions are supposed to be ordered geographically, so place Canada first then Australia and the European countries are fine where they are apart from Switzerland should be moved to first because it is the highest position in the continent

You missed this. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Credits and personnel

List Bashar Jackson and Ellis Newton under their stage names
The source uses their real names.
It only does that for songwriter credits; for the others, these two are credited their stage names so change to avoid confusion. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Charts

See MOS:TABLECAPTION

References

Copyvio score looks decent at 33.3%; I would have flagged the NME ref but it is fine as long as you remove the second sentence from music and lyrics as suggested
Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
Remove the author from ref 11
Ref 14 is not accessible from my internet; are you sure it is titled the same as ref 13?
It works fine on my internet. And yes, it has the same title.
Fix the author for ref 19, as you have accidentally listed the one from ref 5

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed; this is not a large article but I believe it is notable enough! --K. Peake 08:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake Thanks for the review. I have addressed your concerns. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss You have missed some, which I've gone over above. --K. Peake 10:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake Oh my god. I'm sorry about that. I was awake at 4 in the morning working on this. I have fixed it now. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 20:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss ✓ Pass and it is fine; I only fixed your introduction of 50 Cent because it was not worded correctly and the order since Australia was the only one misplaced! --K. Peake 21:27, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]