Talk:Gallican Rite

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Wikified and moved text

The text that was here has been wikified and moved to the main page. No doubt many improvements can still be made but it is good in IMHO to be moved. It probably needs splitting into a couple or 3 articles--NHSavage 23:17, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rite or rites

AS I know there was no unified Gallican rite but there were many local variations (Uses) of this rite/ So we can talk about Gallican rites.--greutungen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.86.230.114 (talk) 09:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Rite of Lyons is not Gallican, but Roman, even if some elements such as the variable benediction before Communion is Gallican in origin. In fact, the Lyonese Rite is closer to the original hybrid version of the Roman Mass that Alcuin created when he edited the Roman sacramentary sent to Charlesmagne from Rome and subsequently imposed as the 'Roman mass' on his 'Roman' empire than the more Gallicanized hybrid mass usages that later under the Saxon emperors even influenced the way the Roman liturgy came to be celebrated in Rome itself. Any eucharistic liturgy in which the eucharistic prayer is the Roman Canon is, by definition, a Roman liturgy, not Gallican. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.48.212.48 (talk) 21:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orthodox Gallican rite

I have a link to the text of the Gallican rite that the Orthodox Church of France produced under the guidance of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia. Does anyone mind if I add it to the list of external links? Deusveritasest (talk) 08:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am absolutely new to this. The article is long and has a lot of information. Would be nice to have some brief summary at the introductory section. I wanted to see where the rite is practiced but was unable to find it. That would be nice to have, including some cities or parishes. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ballesterj (talk • contribs) 01:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kovalevsky liturgy

Eugraph and Maxime Kovalevsky wrote The divine liturgy of Saint Germanus of Paris.^[1] According to Talk:Western Rite Orthodoxy (this version) Eugraph Kovalevsky seems to have been deposed by the Synod of the Romanian Orthodox Church at the time the English translation was published. He manifested, according to the talk page quote, "various errors of dogma, liturgical and canonical discipline, and the teachings and practices contrary to the universal orthodoxy" ("[diverses erreurs d'ordre dogmatique, liturgique et de discipline canonique, ainsi que des enseignements et des pratiques contraires à l'orthodoxie universelle] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help)"). WorldCat does not list anything published by "Saint Venantius Press". Maxime Kovalevsky [fr] is not Maksim Kovalevsky. I removed the link.

References

^ DesMarais, Francis; Carragan, William, eds. (August 1996). The divine liturgy of Saint Germanus of Paris. Albany, NY: Saint Venantius Press. This booklet is a translation and adaptation of the rite of the Eglise Catholique Orthodoxe de France, as restored and developed from ancient sources by Eugraph and Maxime Kovalevsky. Transcribed on "The divine liturgy of Saint Germanus". Paris: Eglise Orthodoxe de France. 1996. Archived from the original on 2011-10-02. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

—BoBoMisiu (talk) 03:05, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How did it end?

As far as I can see this article nowhere offers much definite information about when and how these forms ultimately fell out of use or were "abolished". Can anyone provide clarification? Mrnatural (talk) 20:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was displaced through liturgical reforms standardized by the Council of Trent. —BoBoMisiu (talk) 20:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Institution: clarification needed

There is mention of "...the position of the Great Intercession and of the Pax were altered..."; however there is no clear indication of where these were previously and to where they were moved.

Can someone please provide this information into this article? Victorsteelballs (talk) 14:57, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] DesMarais, Francis; Carragan, William, eds. (August 1996). The divine liturgy of Saint Germanus of Paris. Albany, NY: Saint Venantius Press. This booklet is a translation and adaptation of the rite of the Eglise Catholique Orthodoxe de France, as restored and developed from ancient sources by Eugraph and Maxime Kovalevsky. Transcribed on "The divine liturgy of Saint Germanus". Paris: Eglise Orthodoxe de France. 1996. Archived from the original on 2011-10-02. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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