Talk:Gadara Aqueduct

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The missing citations were added now, maybe one can delete the "Warning message",or? (Dec.2021)

The Tunnel Section exists also today in some parts. In original "working status" around the second Century AD this Section was about 105km long, but also intersected by at minimum 2 Bridges at wadi esh Sellale and Wadi Queilbeh ( maybe 3). ^[1]. As you can refer at some google satellite images the tunnel section is existing and can be seen as a line of construction shafts on these images.^[2]

Does this thing currently exist or not? If not, is the whole thing destroyed, or only parts? Ex: Why does it appear on the List of longest tunnels, or does that entry only count whatever parts are left? It is very hard to tell from the article as a whole. Last1in (talk) 17:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Bridges". Decapolis Aqueduct. J.Kleb.
^ "Tunnel Sections". Decapolis Aqueduct. J.Kleb. Retrieved 31 December 2021.

Possible confirmation of underground city claims: 2002 Syrian government expedition?

Please see the following article, published 30 January 2017 by Syrians for Truth & Justice, a human rights monitoring and reporting nonprofit that is primarily concerned with protection of Syrian lives, human rights, and cultural heritage. As of this post (Oct. 2024) it only as ~1100 views per the counter on the article, so it's very obscure. However, it provides some very surprising details. Link to article here: The Impact of the Current Situation on the Archaeological Sites of Daraa/Syria - 30 January 2017 https://stj-sy.org/en/111/

And link / excerpt from the "about us" section for the Syrians for Truth & Justice source:

Syrians for Truth and Justice (STJ) started as an idea in a co-founder’s mind while attending the U.S. Middle-East Partnership Initiative‘s (MEPI) Leaders for Democracy Fellowship program (LDF) in 2015. The idea became a reality and flourished into an independent, non-profit, impartial, non-governmental human rights organization. ... https://stj-sy.org/en/history/

And here are the relevant details from the article:

Daraa is a province in the southwestern Syria, located north of the border with Jordan, the Syrian Qunitra Governorate from the west, Sweida Province from the east, and Damascus province from the north. Historically Daraa is part of the Houran region. Daraa’s area is about 4,000 km2. There are several archeological sites and precious monuments located in it.

Daraa, the capital of Daraa governorate, had the name Auranitis (Aramaic Hawran, cave land) in antiquities and inhabited by the Canaanites. It was mentioned in the Hebrew bible as Edrei.

Several excavations were done to the archaeological sites in Daraa city in 2002 by the Syrian Department of Antiquities [perm. dead link], under the umbrella of National Archaeological Missions, which revealed the presence of an ancient city underneath the existing Daraa. Those findings included the remains of rooms, houses with courtyards, and corridors that might be used by cavemen during the Stone Age from the sixth millennium to the fourth millennium BC (6,000 to 4,000 BC). Daraa was first mentioned in the Amarna letters, discovered in Egypt 1882 AD., whose cuneiform tablets dated back to the fourth century BC."

Questions for discussion:

Can we confirm the 2002 government expedition which allegedly confirmed the underground city? If so, that is definite confirmation.
Is the source Syrians for Truth & Justice reliable enough to be used in this article? (based on my due diligience, I would say so, but I leave it open for discussion.

Publius D. Liber (talk) 19:20, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Bridges". Decapolis Aqueduct. J.Kleb.

[2] "Tunnel Sections". Decapolis Aqueduct. J.Kleb. Retrieved 31 December 2021.

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