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Reviewer: Prism (talk · contribs) 18:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Prose

Lead section

  • "It debuted on radio as the album's third single on March 28, 2014" (be specific; what radio did it impact?)
  • ""G.U.Y." is about new-age feminism which Gaga wanted to explore, and has the concept of being strong while being subordinate to a man". "Musically, it is an EDM track containing elements of industrial, R&B, and house music with its lyrics addressing a number of subjects like sexual dominance, submission and gender roles." I think the sentences about the lyrics could be joined instead of going concept (lyrics anyway)-music-lyrics.
  • "panned" is a bit too harsh... you're also implying that the lyrics are stereotypical and the production is dated. Maybe "criticized its lyrics and production".
  • "top-ten" (I don't think a hyphen is needed here)
  • "In her native United States" (native is redundant, you already said in the first paragraph that she is American)
  • "on the airplay charts" (Since this article isn't written in BrEng, the definite article is unnecessary)
  • Remove the California part. It's too specific for the lead section.
  • "Gaga recorded public announcements for the Castle and make donations, in exchange for the permission to shoot" (needs clarification, I don't understand what public announcements for the Castle is in this context and make is also the wrong tense)
  • "the video showed" → "the video shows"
  • "her trials" (what?)


Background and development

  • "Development of Gaga's third studio album, Artpop, began shortly after the release of her second one, Born This Way (2011), and by the following year, the record was already under conception" (Can under conception be replaced with being recorded?)
  • "which ones" (remove ones, it's redundant)
  • "further clarified" → "clarified"
  • "Musicnotes.com" should be substituted with the name of the group that published the sheet music

Critical response

  • Are WebProNews and Starpulse reliable?
  • "MTV News' Walker" (if you're only going to repeat their surnames, don't mention the website again, as per what you did with Lipshutz)
  • "G.U.Y." is repeated excessively in the second paragraph
  • "of "G.U.Y." calling it clunky" needs comma before calling
  • "Chris Bosman from Time questioned the justification behind listening to songs like "G.U.Y." from the album, instead of Gaga's older hits." TNT this. It's just confusing, unclear, too big...
  • "decipher" (avoid expensive words, it makes comprehension to general readers hard)

Release and artwork'

  • "It was not until March 2014, when Dateline NBC tweeted that the next single was "G.U.Y." and the message, "Yes, you heard right: @ladygaga is premiering the music video for G.U.Y. Saturday at 8/7c on NBC, right before our Saturday Night Mystery!"" → (...), when NBC announced that the next single was "G.U.Y." and that its music video would premiere on the channel, on [date, not just Saturday].
  • "Top 40/Mainstream and Top 40/Rhythmic" → mainstream and rhythmic
  • Is Music Times reliable?

Music video

  • "The music video was filmed at Hearst Castle, near San Simeon, California. Seen here is the Neptune Pool, where the outdoor shots were taken" → "The music video was partly filmed at the Neptune Pool"
  • "for three days" is unnecessary
  • "a public service announcement for the Hearst Castle Preservation Foundation" (I still find this confusing)
  • "She also had to pay the standard $22,100 special event fee and had to reimburse the costs of production to the state. Gaga and her parents also donated $250,000 to the Hearst Castle foundation with an additional $25,000 for water supply study. This led to California Governor Jerry Brown thanking Gaga with a handwritten letter for her endeavors towards betterment of the Hearst Castle Foundation" (needs trimming... you go into excessive detail. Readers don't really need to know how much she paid, endeavors towards betterment of the Hearst Castle Foundation is too formal, as if it was Queen Elizabeth writing. Handwritten is also unnecessary.)
  • "The singer had first toured the Castle on February 3 and found the location interesting for shooting the video" Yet again... unnecessary.
  • "due to being out of town and not wanting to participate respectively" goes into excessive detail.
  • "According to The Associated Press the scenes shot at the Roman Pool included Gaga swimming in it, and dancers carrying a number of fake flowes, spray-painted plastic swans and seashells" This is already in the synopsis. Remove this.
  • "While filming Gaga was bitten by a slow loris, a type of venomous primate, which was not used in the shooting further" is trivial, therefore needs to be removed
  • "A dance scene in a clone factory is shown with Gaga in jeans." is irrelevant to the synopsis. I don't understand why the cast members' surnames aren't used when they're being mentioned again)
  • "Credits are run for four minutes as "Manicure" plays." irrelevant
  • "The film" or "The video"?
  • "including all who worked in it in the credits" (including is redundant)
  • The Huffington Post shouldn't be italicized.
  • This subsection is a bit repetitive (Reception and analysis). [Critic name] from [Publication name] said/other verbs "[...]". Shake it up a bit. Some examples are "Writing for X, someone said Y"; "Someone of L said"; "Publication editor/writer/columnist someone said"
  • "Contactmusic.com's Elinor Cosgrave initially commented that Gaga "had outdone herself with a mix of symbolism", however the references to Christ and rebirth mixed with a lack of coherent plot made it "ultimately bizarre" → "Contactmusic.com's Elinor Cosgrave highlighted the video's "mix of symbolism", despite criticizing the references to Christ and rebirth. Also, the first mention of Jesus should be changed to Jesus Christ.
  • "Especially the ending of the video justified this with Gaga murdering the corporate heads who supposedly destroyed her freedom in the beginning of the video" (this reads like it's a fact, not like a critic said this)

Live Performances

  • "The same day as its single release, Gaga performed "G.U.Y." at the Roseland Ballroom in Manhattan, New York as the first part of a seven-day-concert, starting with March 28, then 30 and 31, as well as April 2, 4, 6, and 7." → ""G.U.Y." was included in the setlist of her Manhattan residency show Roseland Ballroom""
  • "She stood in the middle of the Ballroom stage and sang the opening lyrics. Gaga started performing the song in a choreography similar to the music video. The stage was flooded with purple neon lights" (This is how this reads: She did this. She did that. The stage was like this. There's no flow in the sentences.)
References
  • Why does the liner notes reference have Gaga as an author? That's incorrect, unless she designed it herself. Also, the title of the booklet is Artpop, not "G.U.Y. digital booklet".
  • The Huffington Post shouldn't be italicized.
  • Journals/magazines should all have the Cite journal template, and they don't, resulting in some being formatted like "Work (Publisher)" and others "Work. Publisher."

The prose is definitely the weakest point of this article, let me know when you have corrected those points above and I'll copyedit the page. — prism △ 18:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On it now, Prism! Snuggums (talk • contributions) 21:48, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! — prism △ 22:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Prism I think that's almost everything. Working on some finishing touches Snuggums (talk • contributions) 01:08, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
XXSNUGGUMSXX thanks for taking this up and thanks Prism for your diligent review. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No problem :). Prism the refs should all be good now. Snuggums (talk • contributions) 06:54, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for not replying earlier, but I was all night with my friends and needed to rest. About the review: I've checked and all the changes have been carried out. The article is much better now. Congrats for a new GA! — prism △ 10:40, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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