Talk:Future (Red Velvet song)

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Future (Red Velvet song) was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
March 15, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Future (Red Velvet song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will review this article soon; it's not overly large so the OR worry probably won't pop up really here. --K. Peake 09:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

 Done

Infobox looks good! Done
Pipe soundtrack to Start-Up (South Korean TV series) #Original soundtrack Done
"It was released as a digital single" → "The song was released as a digital single" with the pipe Done
Remove the instrumental mention from the lead, as that is not notable Done
To expand the short lead, you should add the producers and writers; do this by writing them out in the body too though Done
Swap the commercial performance sentences because South Korea should come first due to it being the group's native country Done
"charted at 21 on the" → "charted at number 21 on the" Done

Background and composition

 Done

Start this section by mentioning the writers and producers per the credits source(s); the producers should be moved from the second para to this one since there's background info next to them anyway and writers will need to be moved too to avoid separation Done
You should add a comma after what's currently of the Vlending sentence and mention "revealing "Future" would be released at 6pm on October 17, 2020.", per the source Done
"released on October 17, 2020, as a digital single" → "released on the planned date as a digital single" with the target Done
Audio sample looks good! Done
""Future" was described" → "Musically, "Future" was described" Done
Wikilink tempo Done
Mention that the song includes guitar per the credits Done

Commercial performance

 Done

Retitle to Promotion and reception, mentioning the music video release date at the start using the YT link as a ref because it is verified Done
"for the period" → "during the period dated" Done
"debuted at number 85 in" → "further reached number 85 on" Done
"in the component BGM chart, while peaking at 45." → "on the component BGM chart, while going on to peak at number 45." Done
Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) Done

Track listing

 Done

Good Done

Credits and personnel

 Done

Target Red Velvet to Red Velvet (group)
Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel Done

Charts

 Done

Sub-section is not needed when all the positions are weekly Done

Release history

 Done

Format → Format(s) Done
Label → Label(s) Done

References

 Done

Copyvio score looks to be no problem at 1.0%!!! Done
Top job with the archiving here! Done
Ref 1 is missing the work/publisher parameter Done
Cite Melon as publisher instead for refs 2 and 14, plus fix WP:OVERLINK for the latter Done
Pipe Sports Chosun to The Chosun Ilbo on ref 7 Done
Cite Gaon Music Chart as publisher instead for refs 8, 9, 10 and 11 Done
WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 13 Done

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed, but this article is quite short so it shouldn't take long! --K. Peake 15:45, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: All comments on the review regarding the article have all been resolved. Thank you so much for continuously reviewing the articles I nominate! I do always appreciate the effort you're giving in making these reviews! Hope to work with you soon once again! :) --LipaCityPH 07:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LipaCityPH: Mostly a good job and your welcome, but the only issues are that you not only placed the writers and producers in the wrong area but also wrote the latter out twice in the body, you did not keep the revealing section separate from the actual release as I instructed, you did not mention the guitar (unless there's a reason why) and you forgot to pipe Billboard. --K. Peake 08:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: I forgot the guitar part. I'm sorry my mistake. I'll try to fix other issues as well. --LipaCityPH 08:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: I managed to fix other issues. However I'm unsure whether they were correct. I'm sorry. --LipaCityPH 08:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LipaCityPH: The only mistakes that still remain are that you have not fixed the repetition of the writing credits, plus the production info should be moved to being next to them alongside the background from previous productions, also the sentence should end with "revealing "Future" would be released at 6pm on October 17, 2020." then add one afterwards about it being released as a digital single on the planned date as I previously instructed. --K. Peake 11:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: I hope I managed to fix the mistakes by now. I'm sorry if I keep our conversations long for this short article. If I still have mistakes, please bear with me. I'll be doing my best to improve my skills towars editing. I'm really sorry. --LipaCityPH 11:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LipaCityPH: You have still made the mistakes with the production credits, but I have fixed that for you since it's one thing and the other changes were implemented correctly. ✓ Pass now and it is fine to have long conversations as long as they are productive! --K. Peake 12:10, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just one minor thing – source #3 (link) does not confirm that Yesy produced the song like its stated in the sentence "Future was produced by Taibian, Bark, and Yesy, who had previously produced the soundtracks for television series such as Itaewon Class, Stranger Season 2, Extraordinary You, and Hell Is Other People", the source says that only Taibian and Bark produced it. Snowflake91 (talk) 12:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Snowflake91 Thank you for pointing that out, must have missed it and @LipaCityPH:, either add a ref that backs up Yesy or remove that producer altogether. --K. Peake 12:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: I've separated Yesy from the two producers who were mentioned on the reference. I just don't know whether that was correct. Thank you for your time as always. :) --LipaCityPH 11:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]