Talk:Full Moon o Sagashite

Names

I'm working on the English names from the manga now. Most are the same except the English ones have none of the Japanese symbols, and Full Moon is written as Fullmoon. I also moved second names into the prose, such as Meroko's real name. Hope that helps. AnmaFinotera (talk) 07:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

So the title is Full Moon but the character is Fullmoon? Um. —Quasirandom (talk) 18:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep, that's how its spelled in the manga. Not sure why though I guess because Fullmoon is her "created" stage name, while in the show title, it translates to "Searching for a Full Moon" and also ties to Mitsuki's name.AnmaFinotera (talk) 18:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

So should we list her Japanese name as Furumūn instead of Furu Mūn? —Quasirandom (talk) 19:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, now that is the question :P When I ran the kanji through a converter, it comes out as Furumūn rather than Furu Mūn. However, it might be good to ask someone for the project with more expertise in Japanese to see what they think? AnmaFinotera (talk) 19:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Be hard to tell, since Japanese is written without spaces. The scanlators (not that they're reliable sources) took it to be Full Moon. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but that's what we tend to expect it to be spelled as since that's why we do it in English. For Viz to deliberately make it one word, makes me think maybe Shueisha or Tanemura told them it was intended to be a single word. I took a look at the anime. On the CDs and posters shown n the series, it is written "Fullmoon" (in English). Its also said in English, which makes me wonder where the Japanese name is coming from? AnmaFinotera (talk) 20:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's shown as Fullmoon in the anime, that would make it definitive. Wouldn't be the first time an English word or phrase has been used in a way slightly off from standard English useage. I'll change it to Fullmoon (for the character) in the article. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

BTW, could you confirm that Sōichirō Shidō is the English spelling and Shidou Souichirou is the Japanese? I would expect them reversed. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

You would be correct. Shido Soichiro is the English, while Sōichirō Shidō is the Japanese. AnmaFinotera (talk) 23:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

What about Takuto's name, though? He has different ways of writing his name: His name was written as Kira Takuto when he was human (family name, first name), which was written as 吉良拓人. When he became a shinigami, his name was written in full katakana, with his first name being... well, first:　タクト・キラ. This kind of defines the boundary of his past and present, and it becomes fairly obvious that "Takuto" is not just his shinigami name when Wakaouji sees him. Justicebullet (talk) 05:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

From my understanding, his human name was Kira Takuto, while as a shinigami, it was reversed to Takuto Kira and the way it is written is changed, though its pronounced the same. So when Wakaouji see's him and recognizes him, he calls him Takuto, the name he called the human who knew. It seems most of the Shinigami's names are similar to their human names, in some way or another, both giving a boundary to their past, while also maintaining the connections they have forgotten (which fits with teh ending of the manga, not so much with the anime). For Meroko, her Shinigami name is an anagram of her human name, while Izumi's name is simply changed from Lio to Rio (perhaps do denote the fact that he didn't forget most of his past like the others normally do). AnmaFinotera (talk) 05:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

It's somewhat significant, though. I saw your page and it doesn't look like you know Japanese, so you might not understand the significance of the differences. These names use different characters, and Takuto's shinigami name uses katakana, which can stand for anything. However, when written in kanji, it's unique and narrows it down to one identity. Blackarcadia (talk) 18:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't particularly matter though. The English names are what we use here, which is what was being pointed out here. While I may not know Japanese to a great degree, I do have a basic understanding of the language constructs being discussed (along with a smattering of actual words I can speak/understand), but that wasn't the point of the discussion. It is significant to a Japanese person, I'm sure, but to the average English reader, it isn't. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I iz confused...

So if it's known as "Full Moon" in English, shouldn't it be moved to "Full Moon"? Or is that the Anime name, and not the manga name? Moocowsrule (talk) 01:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)moocowsrule

It was released as Full Moon o Sagashite for both medium. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 02:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

The manga cover is labeled Full Moon wo Sagishite but the cover reads Full Moon o Sagishite. Houston, we have a problem. Silverstarseven (talk) 16:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• The Japanese syllable "wo" changed to "o" fairly recently. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:07, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Art book review

I found a review for the art book, but wasn't sure it could be incorporated into the article. Here's a link:

• Review at The Comic Book Bin --Kelakagandy (talk) 21:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 27 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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Full Moon o Sagashite → Full Moon O Sagashite – English print releases and cover uses a capital "O" per WP:COMMONNAME lullabying (talk) 18:06, 26 July 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 14:08, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:49, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

• @Lullabying: The "o" is a case-forming postposition (like Japanese common "-no", which means "-'s"). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:51, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Anthony Appleyard: The English print version capitalizes the "O" though. It's still grammatically correct. lullabying (talk) 05:01, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

lullabying, only the cover title shows the capitalized O, hinting again at stylization, and for the most part the manga and anime series is referred to as Full Moon. Notice Kimi ni Todoke cover is stylized "kimi ni todoke", all lower-case. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:22, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. I don't see what WP:COMMONNAME has to do with this, both titles are the same name. It is wrong to capitalize the o. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

• @Xezbeth: The English translated title capitalizes the "o." You would have to redo all the entire templates to change the article use the lowercase. I agree with MOS:JAPAN but the English translation uses a capitalized "o" so we should probably establish some sort of consistency. lullabying (talk) 06:57, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

The English person who did that probably has no idea what it means. More important to be correct. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support. A perusal of the sources seems to indicate that capitalized "O" is indeed predominant. SnowFire (talk) 20:29, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

And wrong. This just shows that the sources are rubbish, which we would expect. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose -o is equivalent to accusative case suffix/particle. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose the Viz translation graphic novel uses lower-case o "Full Moon o Sagashite" in the inside pages such as the character introductions and in the author's notes, thus treating it like those prepositions. See the free preview pages at https://www.viz.com/read/manga/full-moon-volume-6/product/715 The capitalized O can be retained as a redirect for stylization. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:08, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I will change my stance per AngusWOOF's reasoning, as AngusWOOF has shown that capitalization may be stylistic. lullabying (talk) 20:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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Source

In the section Anime, we can read ː The series was adapted as a 52-episode anime television series by Studio Deen, directed by Toshiyuki Kato. It was broadcast on TV Tokyo from April 6, 2002 to March 29, 2003. But on the source, it isn't written the same thing. The source says just Vintage: 1991-1992 (first series), 1995-1996 (second series). So, that is true? Jeanne Angerie (talk) 18:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Way too early. FMoS aired from 2002 to 2003. Rctgamer3 (talk) 21:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)