Talk:Full Grown

Gavin Munro was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 8 January 2018 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Full Grown. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Removing cited content

Netherzone diff Will you please give a link to the relevant policy and how you think it applies to the multiple cited content that you removed. Blackash (talk) 12:30, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blackash,

The citations were not removed, only the pricing information, which seemed advertorial (like a product sales catalog). Per WP:NOTCATALOG an encyclopedia is not the place to list the sales prices of a company's products. See:

An article should not include product pricing or availability information unless there is an independent source and a justified reason for the mention. Encyclopedic significance may be indicated if mainstream media sources (not just product reviews) provide commentary on these details instead of just passing mention. Prices and product availability can vary widely from place to place and over time. Wikipedia is not a price comparison service to compare the prices of competing products, or the prices and availability of a single product from different vendors or retailers.

You of course are free to add it back if you feel strongly about it however, to my mind, I do not think it will be an improvement to the article.

BTW, the article needs a lot of work. There are multiple grammatical errors throughout the article, and some sentences that do not make sense at all like this one for example: The idea of growing trees for 50 years then cut them into small pieces glue together in ways that can only ever fall apart didn't seem to make much sense. Netherzone (talk) 15:18, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Netherzone Thank you for info. Please note how the content and cites was structured.

Most of the chairs have been pre-sold.^[1] (With the chairs selling for a per-order price £2,500 each, a finished chair the price is £5,000.^[2] Light shades priced between £1,000 and £1,500 and Hexagon mirror frames £450.^[3]^[4])

The part you removed is in the brackets. Considering there is a ref directly in front of each sentence you removed. Clearly the citations you left are about the sentence in front of them.

As WP:NOTCATALOG policy, the parts of note in regards to this article, I'll address each just after each green quote.

"an independent source and a justified reason for the mention" These sentences had been added following multiple refs not just the ones cited. The refs given are from independent sources and are far from the only ones talking about price. When a creation is so vastly new or artistic people want to know what it sells for. We are always asked about the price of our art, right after asking about our shaping method and followed by how does long does it take.

"Encyclopedic significance may be indicated if mainstream media sources (not just product reviews) provide commentary on these details instead of just passing mention."The Refs are are also mainstream and are not product reviews. Most refs for this are long articles in their own right talking about different aspects of Full Grown, their owners, and their products.

"not a price comparison service to compare the prices of competing products, or the prices and availability of a single product from different vendors or retailers." There isn't any real competing products and a Full Grown item is unique. So it not about Comparisons.

WP:EDITING Quote "Improve pages wherever you can, and do not worry about leaving them imperfect. Preserve the value that others add, even if they "did it wrong" (try to fix it rather than delete it)." Blackash (talk) 16:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure how to change this page time has moved on the price of the chairs has increased a lot I just read this article from the Huffpost.com grow tree furniture Gavin Munro chairs sell for $1248o Sep 23 2019 David Goldstein 154 (talk) 13:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Cite error: The named reference fastcodesign was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Dawood, Sarah (31 March 2015), Designer grows furniture from the ground, Design Week
^ Cite error: The named reference bbc was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Gavin Munro grows furniture in a Derbyshire plot, The Australian, 2015

[fastcodesign-1] Cite error: The named reference fastcodesign was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[designweek-2] Dawood, Sarah (31 March 2015), Designer grows furniture from the ground, Design Week

[bbc-3] Cite error: The named reference bbc was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[australian-4] Gavin Munro grows furniture in a Derbyshire plot, The Australian, 2015

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