Talk:Frying pan

Change of name of article

I propose changing the name of this article from Skillet to Frying Pan. This is because skillet is a term only understood at large in North America, whereas Frying Pan is understood by all flavours of English. To aid general ease of use, and remove US-specific-terms bias, I am in favour of this. Others agree ?--jrleighton 01:46, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Very much so-I have just come to this discussion to make that suggestion. John 15:46, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

No real need - frying pan directs here anyway Robdurbar 12:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

But there are more links to Frying Pan, and it is more widely understood. The naming policy says: "Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." On that basis I am going to move it. John 17:29, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

The page cannot be moved to Frying pan as it has been edited, so I have put it on requested moves. John 17:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was Skillet moved to Frying pan —Greg Asche (talk) 02:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Voting

Frying pan is a much more widely understood term.

• Support if I'm allowed to. John 17:47, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
• OPPOSE other things have also been called frying pans, since frying pan is generic 132.205.45.110 19:29, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose In my region the two terms are basically synonymous and used about equally.—jiy (talk) 08:27, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
• Support If skillet in this sense is not widely known outside the U.S. then perhaps it should be moved to frying pan because to my knowledge both skillet and frying pan are used and understood equally in the U.S. However according to dictionaries skillet is also a British term referring to a kind of pot with legs [1]. I don't know how we should handle that.—jiy (talk) 09:54, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

There is only one meaning of frying pan in Chambers online. John 00:08, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

The question really is whether people outside of the USA would understand the term 'skillet'. Here in the UK - which I'm presuming is one of the largest English Wikipedia contributors after the USA - the term wouldn't be understood. I only came to this page having found a recepie on an American Internet page that referred to a 'skillet'. If this is the case in the rest of the english-speaking world, then 'frying pan' should be the page's name. Robdurbar 09:34, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

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History section is original writing?

I'm impressed by the new history section, but wonder if it's original writing (in which case it needs cites), or copied from somewhere else. Unusual to find so much added in one swoop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FiveRings (talk • contribs) 17:33, 13 December 2006

Piping Component

I have added the basis for an article about a piping skillet. My understanding about what this thing actually is and why you would want one is somewhat poor. The only reason I added it is because it was referenced on some prints that I am reviewing and I had to look it up.--Dj245 14:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Traditional sizes

Hey all, could someone please add a list of possible sizes of frying pans? Are there maybe 6 or 7 traditional sizes? Do they come in every inch size? Or every half-inch size? Or maybe every second inch size?

Thanks -Rob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.179.27.56 (talk) 15:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It's all over the map - some are in inches, some are in centimeters, etc. Better to add a range. FiveRings (talk) 17:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Not always flared

Some frying pans have vertical sides, for example http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/eu/eurohike-non-stick-frying-pan.jpg Thus, I've rewritten the opening to make the distinguishing feature between a frying pan and a saucepan the height of the sides, relative to the pan diameter. 94.194.66.92 (talk) 22:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Comic Usage

Should the slapstick comedy usage of frying pans be added? -Maxaxle, using a school computer (165.24.247.210 (talk) 15:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC))

No. WP:TRIV Dmforcier (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Electric Frying pan

I have some real problems with this section.

• There are many facts but no citation.
• The section takes quite a negative tone toward the EFP, stating that it was never very successful commercially.
  • This viewpoint must be substantiated as it is potentially controversial and an opposing case can be made. WP:WEIGHT
  • In particular, I recall the EFP as a kitchen staple from the '50s through the '70s, supplanted only by the microwave. So much so, homes were designed with an extractor fan near the most likely location for the EFP. Reading the section, one would never guess that.
  • The variable temperature control was perfected, but there is no mention of that, or of when.
  • It is possible that the viewpoint is just wrong.
• The section may be misplaced. Although the section is predominately historical now, when properly elaborated it may need to be split, or it even become a separate article. An then there is the question of how all this relates to the generic Cookware article...

Dmforcier (talk) 15:24, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with most of these comments. However it may be hard to find sources talking about electric frying pans trends. I suggest that moving the material to another location be left as a last resort. Better just to cut it down to non-controversial statements or descriptions until sources can be found.   Will Beback  talk  17:50, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I just checked the Proquest newspaper archive. It has over 800 entries that mention "electric frying pan", but a spot-check didn't find any that discussed the history of the appliance. It's gonna be tricky to find references for this.   Will Beback  talk  18:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Agree with dropping the controversial bits unless they can be substantiated. I don't have the time to pursue it, so perhaps I should leave it in your hands? There's no hurry, though. Let's give it a week or so and see what crops up. Dmforcier (talk) 01:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

A week? This is a thinly edited article so I wouldn't expect to see much action. Probably the only chance to discover a source for these assertions is to track down the editor who added them. I'll try that.   Will Beback  talk  04:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, this is interesting. I should have remembered it. The material was added by user:HQCentral. I blocked that user 3 and a half years ago as a sock of user:Primetime, who was such a notorious and unrepentant plagiarist that he was banned by Jimbo Wales himself. So the material is almost certainly copied directly from a source. That means it's probably reliable, but it should be deleted anyway. If we ever figure out what his source material was we can use it as the source for a re-written section.   Will Beback  talk  04:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Y'know, I was going to put another point in my list: "Reads like it was copied whole from somewhere", but I couldn't think of a way to say that without offending someone so I left it out. Well done! in tracing it back. I suppose we should start a proper EFP section now... Dmforcier (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Good work. If you actually have an electric frying pan, how about taking a picture of it?   Will Beback  talk  18:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I've never owned one. We do need a picture, though. Why not try searching the commons? Dmforcier (talk) 16:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

My fault for assuming. Nothing electric in the "pan" category of the Commons.[2] Maybe I can take my camera to the local thrift stores and see if they have any.   Will Beback  talk  16:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced claims about an unspecified "Mrs. Beeton"

The article stated the following:

Originally the frying pan was designed with high sides, but due to iron deficiency during the two wars it became common practice to file down the edge of the pan and use the filings in omlettes to increase iron intake. It was during this period that Mrs Beeton realised the benefits of the low edge and took out a patent on the design, making her the richest female in the world excluding the queen.

I added weasel-word tags to some of this, but there is also a chronological problem. Wikipedia already has a Mrs Beeton redirect, which redirects to Isabella Beeton. Isabella Beeton died in 1865. So I don't see how she could have taken out a patent "during this period", meaning "during the two wars" -- unless "the two wars" refer to the Napoleonic Wars and the Indian Mutiny, or unless she was a close friend of H.G. Wells. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 15:31, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Addendum: Both of these sentences were added on 3 August 2011 by User:2.216.158.140, and these are his/her only two edits ever made on Wikipedia. [3] If no one objects I am going to delete them. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 15:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I removed the sentences in question. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 22:22, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

"frivolous" edits

I have restored my edits about injuries caused by frying pans. If any editors believe these are indeed "frivolous", I invite them to discuss this on the talk page rather than reverting again. Thank you. Horatio Snickers (talk) 13:17, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Throughout human history, anything that can be picked up and brought down on someone's head has been used as a weapon. I don't think this is a particularly relevant thing to discuss in this article - frying pans don't get used as improvised weapons any more often than table lamps, chairs, or baseball bats (except in comedies). --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:38, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

This is madness! Even if you leave aside the responsibility of Frying Pans for a relatively large proportion of the 1 million domestic burn injuries which take place in the US alone every year, there are also numerous incidents (of the sources I quoted in the article, four out of five took place in the last eighteen months - and these are a small fragment of the many reports of people being killed and injured in frying pan attacks. I am not suggesting the entire article should be about frying pan injuries, but to entirely leave them out seems bizarre and potentially irresponsible. Wikipedia is not censored! Horatio Snickers (talk) 20:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Sautéing is not a "low heat cooking method"

I'm not an experienced wikipedia editor so I didn't dare to edit the page (:)) but I noticed something that is more than incorrect, it's uncorrect! Sauteing is not a low heat cooking method as said in this article, it's a high heat cooking method, as is mentioned in the article about sauteing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.198.197.4 (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)