Talk:Frontage road
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[edit]I removed the following:
An example is the specific definition used in the county ordinance of Arlington County, Virginia:
- Service road (frontage road) is a roadway contiguous to and generally paralleling a street or highway designed to collect and distribute traffic desiring to cross, enter, or leave such street or highway, and to furnish access to property which would otherwise be isolated due to the controlled access design of the street or highway.
The Stemmons Freeway in Dallas, Texas illustrates the occasional practicability of the frontage road: the real estate developer John Stemmons offered free land to the Texas Highway commission in which to build a freeway (Interstate 35E) on terms that the state build the freeway with frontage roads that would give access to property formerly of slight value that he owned along the route. The state was able to reduce its costs (much of it the cost of land acquisition) of building the freeway, and the developer profited handsomely from lucrative development along the freeway.
This material doesn't seem to fit into the article. The section dealing with Arlington, Virginia simply repeats information already present. The Texas section seems unencyclopedic. Rt66lt 05:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Cleanup-Confusing & Diagram Request
[edit]I have tagged the article for cleanup because even though I already know what a frontage road is, I found the article to be extremely confusing. I have also suggested that a diagram be added, with clear labels as to exactly which roads are frontage roads, instead of just random pictures that contain frontage roads. Overall the flow of the introduction needs much work as well. I will try to cleanup this article as much as I can, but I will leave it tagged until then so that it will alert others to the attention this article requires. -- RedPoptarts 09:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
A map of a highway with service roads along a freeway would be appropriate.
I have removed this segment:
Service roads and collector lanes are not needed in suburban freeways which tend to be designed with interchanges spaced further apart and which have property development located a fair distance away (to avoid noise and pollution of the freeway).
because some of the suburbs have frontage roads. The image of a frontage road in Irving, Texas demonstrates that even if the frontage road was "not necessary" at one time, it is now, at least for commercial property and high-density housing along it. Irving is of course a suburb of Dallas. --Paul from Michigan 04:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Feeder and frontage roads are not synonymous everywhere
[edit]In road planning in Africa and Europe and elsewhere, 'feeder road' means a road which may be several hundred kilometeres long delivering traffic to a regional trunk road; it has nothing to do with 'frontage road'. This usages needs to be reflected in this article or a linked one. Rexparry sydney 07:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
When searching for "Feeder Road" it re-directs to the "Texas" section of this page. Doesn't make sense - as the user above explained in 2007. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.238.197 (talk) 04:53, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, they are common in Florida
[edit]I just found this one paragraph:
With the arguable exception of Missouri,[citation needed] Texas is the only state in the USA that widely constructs frontage/access roads along its highways state-wide, even in some rural areas.[citation needed] Outside of these two states, frontage roads are common in Arizona,[citation needed] Florida,[citation needed] Georgia,[citation needed] Louisiana,[citation needed] Michigan,[citation needed] Mississippi,[citation needed] New Mexico,[citation needed] and Nevada,[citation needed] and then only in urban or suburban areas.
As somebody who has seen the construction of the Suncoast Parkway, I can tell you this is true. How can I give a citation for this? ----DanTD (talk) 16:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- What part of the Suncoast Parkway has frontage roads? The only thing I see is the bike trail that parallels the freeway to the west, I don't see any frontage roads. --Holderca1 talk 15:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Recently deleted section
[edit]Not that I am saying the section is true, but I have been to Denver, they don't use frontage roads, just looked on Google maps, no frontage roads on I-25 in the Springs or Pueblo either. So not sure what you mean that most of Colorado uses them. Perhaps you are confused as to what the paragraph is refering to. Go to google maps and zoom in on an Interstate in Texas. Colorado doesn't do what Texas does. --Holderca1 talk 15:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Frontage roads and Local-express lanes
[edit]A recent proposed merge of Frontage Road with Local-express lanes was opposed. As part of the completion of the request I have added an 'about' banner to this article linking to Local-express lanes and reworked the lead to better describe what I frontage road is as I understand it. Feel free to disagree and make further adjustments! My understanding is based on the UK btw. PeterEastern (talk) 08:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- @PeterEastern: I suppose this distinction could be workable, but the entire article outside of the "Examples" section, especially the "United States" section, is written according to the other definition of "frontage road", as in a local lane in a local–express lane configuration. Minh Nguyễn 💬 07:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response, and I do love how Wikipedia allows discussions to happen at any pace, but this must be a record, 10 years between making a comment and getting a response ;) I had completely forgotten about this issue and in 2012 Wikipedia was a very different place with lots more contention and opposition to just about anything! I have moved on from transport articles so won't re-engage with this now. Do edit and merge as seems appropriate without involving me. PeterEastern (talk) 06:44, 28 April 2022 (UTC)