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http://www.theaquarian.com/2006/05/03/fall-out-boy-interview-with-pete-wentz/
UG Team (September 1, 2005). "From Under the Cork Tree | Fall Out Boy | Compact Discs | Reviews". Ultimate Guitar. Retrieved December 11, 2016.

Our Lawyers Made Us Change the Name of This Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued

What was the original name of this song. There seems to be an edit war going on between "My Name Is David Ruffin and These are The Temptations" and "I Liked You Better Before You Were an F****** MySpace Whore". Which is it? One of them's got to be vandalism. I have no clue. —Akrabbim 21:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have an album demo where the name of the song is the myspace whore one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.201.134.213 (talk • contribs) .

I believe "I Liked You Better Before You Were a F*cking MySpace Whore" is actually a different song. Before headlining the Nintendo Fusion Tour, Fall Out Boy let fans vote for what songs the band would play on their website, and "Our Lawyers Made Us Change the Name of This Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued" and "I Liked You Better Before You Were a F*cking MySpace Whore" were listed seperately. "My Name Is David Ruffin and These are The Temptations" seems more likely, as it was not listed among the other songs, and it seems more likely that this song title would have to be altered for legal reasons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.131.93.104 (talk • contribs) .

Personally, I would believe the demo, if its true. Could be that they just used the rejected name for a new upcoming song (it's proposed for their next album). Unfortunately, it's an anon, so we can't confirm it. Crap, you're an anon too. Man, we need verifiability. I suppose we would have to ask FOB personally… Akrabbim^talk 02:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is most likely the origin of this rumor: http://www.pastebin.ca/697965 read carefully... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.98.197 (talk) 21:16, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you listen to the lyrical content of the song it's clearly a song about myspace. Plus, fellow (at the time) Fueled By Ramen band Kane Hodder had a song on their album entitled "Too Much Eddie Kendricks, Not Enough David Ruffin". However, to my understanding, the original title of the song was actually "I Liked You Just Fine Until I Saw You Naked On Myspace" Miikro (talk) 16:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nope, its already been confirmed that its about "My Name is David Ruffin and these are the temptations", browse around in one of the sources of Fall Out Boy in wiki, it features an interview of Pete Wentz talking about it and the lyrical content is about megalomaniacs and publicity seekers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.109.74 (talk) 10:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additional album cover

I tried to put the Black Clouds and Underdogs cover in the infobox (it worked in my sandbox), but nothing is showing up. The idea was to put a "misc = " at the end of the infobox, and then put this template:

 {{Extra album cover |
  Background    = orange |
  Upper caption = Limited "Black Clouds and Underdogs" Edition ([[2005]]) |
  Cover         = FUtCT BCaU.jpg | }}
}} // Close the infobox

This is supposed to do what is done on The Offspring (album) page, but it won't work for some reason. What am I doing wrong? —Akrabbim^talk 15:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have a UK version of the Black Clouds and Underdogs release and it has a cover different to both of those that are shown on the page. Anyone have any idea why? 86.16.124.34 (talk) 22:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Music Or The Misery- Track 14

Shouldn't this be mentioned on the tracklisting? It IS an official track.

This track is already listed as track 15 on the Limited Edition as one of the extra tracks. Are you saying there is an alternate release of this album that has it as track 14, or did you not see it in the listing? --DJ Phaz3r 22:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Japanese version of the album has it as Track 14, after XO, as the final track of the album.

Champagne For My Real Friends - not a real quote?

From the article: 'The song "Champagne for my Real Friends, Real Pain for my Sham Friends" is taken from a quote by Sir Francis Drake who liked his Bacon.'

I can't find any citations for this. Is this a real fact, or is it made up? Wanderer 02:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links

This article is about the album, not the group. Thus, keep the external links section in topic. There is no need to point to the official site of the artist, or to fan sites, or to the discography. Reviews, interviews that are related to the album and things like that. MySpace stuff can go in the band's page instead. Thank you. -- ReyBrujo 02:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

International realises

What about it? Russian: Universal Music Russia, 4-Sep-2006, #00602498421406 Wishera 00:05, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tearcatcher?

in the limited edition of FUCT, it says inside the credits "Tearcatcher inspired by Wes Eishold", who is the lead singer of Some Girls, should this be put under Trivia? Geo June 22, 2007 1:37 AM EST

umm im confused

did they really release the album before they released a single? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.184.39.205 (talk) 03:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soph(o)more Slump or Comeback of the Year

So, I'm having a bit of a dilemna. On both iTunes and Amazon, the title of the song includes the word "Sophmore", even though that is actually a misspelling, but on Wikipedia and practically every other user-created site related to the song, it's written as "Sophomore", as is technically correct. However, I could see how FOB would legitimately want to have misspelled it, so I'm curious as to whether or no the misspelling is actually meant to be there. If it is, then we need to revise the title of the song. I know it's somewhat arbitrary, but it's been bothering me. SkySapphire (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The back of the CD case is about as good a source as you can get, and it clearly spells it "Sophomore".-Ally (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Post-Hardcore?

So? what can be used to describe this album aside from Pop-Punk? They have some heavy shit going on that does not fit the alternative rock and pop-punk genre, could they be counted in as Post-Hardcore or something?

Screamo. It's not post-hardcore, the style isn't nearly experimental enough. Its emo with screaming, hence, screamo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.28.18 (talk) 06:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not screamo nor post-hardcore. There's only screaming on two songs and one of those was only like one word. That's like saying The Black Parade by My Chemical Romance is screamo. Find a source if you want to add another genre. Supahshadow (talk) 22:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Professional Reviews and Year-end charts

The "Professional Reviews" section in the main infobox should be moved to the "Release and Reception" section.

Adding Year-end charts would be nice too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noreplyhaha (talk • contribs) 06:53, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

XO

Where is the actual evidence that this song title is an Elliott Smith reference? It makes sense, but it doesn't seem particularly factual at this point. 184.56.62.237 (talk) 22:36, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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More Background Information

In an interview with Austin Scaggs from Rolling Stone Magazine Pete Wentz stated that "From Under the Cork Tree" is actually and acronym that not many people picked up on that was short for FUCT. Wentz told Scaggs "No, people do not pick up on it, ever. But it's amazing for radio. When we're on some radio show and they're being totally weird to us, we'll be like, "Go out and get FUCT!"" ^[1] Kayglenn1 (talk) 22:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)Kayla S. Glenn[reply]

References

^ Scaggs, Austin."Q&A: Pete Wentz." Rolling Stone (2006): 20.

[1] Scaggs, Austin."Q&A: Pete Wentz." Rolling Stone (2006): 20.

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