Talk:Friday fast

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Should this be merged with Lent#Fasting_and_abstinence? -- Psy guy ^Talk 18:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say so. This should go under disciplines, or devotions. Or if there were a fasting page, it should go under a Catholic Fasting or Penetential devotions page. Ithillion 11:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mortal sin?

Is it true that eating meat on a Friday is a mortal sin? Supposedly the Second Vatican Council changed this, but I can't find anything on it. --Auric (talk) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meat eating, per se, isn't a sin or it wouldn't be allowed any time; but breaking a Commandment of the Church is. (For Catholics. If you are a baptized non-Catholic and have to do a Confession when converting, you can leave it out.) However, I think there are amounts of meat where a Catholic didn't "really eat meat", which would be venial. If, however, he does this not by weakness or inadvertence, but to evade abstincence, it would perhaps be mortal. (Note that the law itself provides plenty of exceptions which to use is, obviously, no sin; one such is, as far as I know, the "foreign table" thing. Common sense is to be applied: if your non-Catholic friends or non-practicing friends invite you to a barbecue party on a Friday, go ahead. If some group does that on Good Friday in order to give a public statement, it might be advisable not to join in.)

Vatican II did, per se, absolutely nothing about that. It is true that afterwards, Episcopal Conferences were given the right to allow their faithful to substitute something else for the penance, which afterwards has happened on a large scale. But the rule as such has remained; also, even if the Episcopal Conference has allowed to substitute something for the penance, well then, you have to do that substitute penance if you want to eat meat.--2001:A61:215F:1501:A53D:542B:A5CB:F33E (talk) 16:01, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Important Section Completely Absent

Why does this page not have a section on Friday abstinence and fasting in the Orthodox tradition? The Orthodox churches form the second largest stream of Christian faith, after only Catholicism and certainly include many more worshipers than individual Protestant subsects like Methodism or even Anglicanism/Episcopalism. Without such a section, this article is obviously and manifestly incomplete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:BC0A:1200:F86F:F226:F222:B1E3 (talk) 21:54, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

In my opionion, the introduction is not quite correct, stating that friday fast includes abstaining from lacticinia and alcohol in all churches resp. denominations. At least for the Roman Catholic church it is consumption of the meat of land animals (and nothing else). That abstinence or fast includes abstaining from alcohol, too, is a rather common error. Medusahead (talk) 09:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the Christian denomination, but I have edited the lede to make that clear. With respect to the Friday Fast, in the Catholic Church, abstinence from meat is the current norm, while in certain Orthodox traditions, both meat and lacticinia are proscribed; Lutheran traditions recommend against alcohol consumption. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 18:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]