Talk:French ironclad Savoie/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 04:36, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this. This will be my first review, so any comments on would be helpful.

The six good article criteria:

the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout etc.

it contains a list of all references, presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

all inline citations are from reliable sources;

it contains no original research; and

it contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism.

it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and

it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail.

it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to different points of view.

it does not change significantly from day to day because of any ongoing edit war or content dispute.

images are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

A few comments:

Savoie was paid off in 1871 at Toulon, but she was recommissioned on 1 January 1872. Is this worth adding to the infobox?
- Generally I don't bother as many ships of this period went in and out of commission/reserve multiple times, which would needlessly bulk up the infobox, which is probably too long already.
The ship was reduced to reserve at Toulon in 1874–1876. Did this require decommissioning? If so, would this be worth adding to the infobox too?
- It's unclear to me how the French reserve system actually worked, especially since it seems to change over time. Sometimes reserve ships have a small number of full-time crew and the crew is filled out by reservists for their yearly training, other times, not.
The ship was stricken from the navy list on 19 November 1888. The infobox says "condemned". Are they synonyms here or are they different things (c.f a sistership's review)?
- Here my sources use the same date for stricken and condemned; other ships are given different dates for them. Color me confused!
The citations are author only. When I look at WP:SRF the convention seems to be author, date, page. Would it be worth including the date?
- There is no required citation style in Wikipedia; the only real requirement is that an article should use the same style consistently throughout. Personally I don't see any value to adding dates unless I need to disambiguate multiple sources from the same author.

Thanks for the review. Don't forget about my first batch of comments on your APS-20 article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]