Talk:Free association (psychology)

Recent research on memory

Freud found that despite a subject's effort to remember, a certain resistance kept him or her from the most painful and important memories. He eventually came to the view that certain items were completely repressed, and off-limits, to the conscious realm of the mind.

I realize that Freudian theory is passé, but recent research on memory may help provide new insight on these old ideas. Viriditas (talk) 07:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Psychoanalysis

- Move to - Free association (psychoanalysis)- This page does not talk about psychology but about psychoanalysis; so the title is misleading to say the least. --T0t0 Cugn0 (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Oppose renaming the article. Free association is not restricted to psychoanalysis, and to claim that it is imposes an inaccurate restriction on the term and reflects a profoundly outdated understanding of the term. Freud did not develop the Rorschach, TAT, or sentence completion tests, nor are those tests used exclusively in psychoanalysis. In fact, currently they are used in a variety of clinical and forensic contexts that have nothing to do with psychoanalysis. The broader umbrella term of psychology, rather than psychoanalysis, is more appropriate. Sundayclose (talk) 17:05, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Why have you tried repeatedly to remove a criticism (sourced from the work of famous academics) of this method?

Free association comes from psychoanalysis, and from Freud.

It seems false, without sources, to affirm that psychologists use it or have used it.

To claim that it is psychology imposes a fraudulent and inaccurate view of the term and reflects a deeply biased understanding of the term producing confusion.

This confusion maintained with psychology has been theorized and used since Freud to appear scientific (which psychoanalysis is not).

Where are the (encyclopaedic) sources on uses outside of psychoanalysis?

--T0t0 Cugn0 (talk) 18:46, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Read the Wikipedia articles on Rorschach, TAT, and sentence completion tests, and equally important, find and read all of the sources cited in those articles. Those should be in a major university near you. That would be a good start. After that read the last 25 years of Journal of Personality Assessment. When you finish that, come back here and we can discuss. And don't claim that you can't access those sources. Those of us who have read most of those sources over the past 40 years, extensively used those and other tests in non-psychoanalytic settings, and know what we're talking about have put in our minimum 10,000 hours, so if you want to make anything resembling informed comments here, you need to do the same. Sundayclose (talk) 21:22, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

I note your lack of scientific basis, your inability to produce a simple source, and your vain attempt to divert this discussion or conversation for the encyclopedic improvement of this article (not another).

free association in the field of psychology is not the subject that this page develops in the current state. This is a fact!

Either we change the title or we modify the content.

--T0t0 Cugn0 (talk) 22:04, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

I pointed you to thousands of sources. If you don't wish to even begin to read them, there's nothing more I can do. And no, you won't change the title for a third time without a clear consensus here. I'm finished discussing with you here unless others weigh in. Sundayclose (talk) 22:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

TAT, and sentence completion tests = no use of "free association".

Rorschach = one use of free association - with no source

try again, try better...--T0t0 Cugn0 (talk) 22:14, 20 July 2023 (UTC)