Talk:Fraye Arbeter Shtime/Archive 1

Archive 1

Translation?

Arbeiter means "laborer" or "worker" and not "labor". Is the English translation meant to be an official one, or was it devised by the writer of the article? I'd probably have translated the title "The Free Voice of Workers" or the "The Free Worker's Voice", but then again I don't terribly trust my own German. Sarge Baldy 22:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

The documentary about the newspaper was titled Free Voice of Labor. Additionally, I believe that the editors used that term for the paper. Actually, it's Yiddish, not German. The term itself can be translated several ways, I went for the most vernacular one. Daykart 04:19, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Article split

As the editor who originally added the documentary information, I had originally considered giving the documentary its own article, but didn't think it over. Now that someone else has suggested the split, and no one has spoken up against it, there are at least two people who favor a split. The editor who advanced it, and myself. I'll just carry it out now.--Cast 05:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

move page / spelling?

Why is this article located at Fraye Arbeter Shtime? The title published as Freie Arbeiter Stimme; that should be the article title, with a redirect from this page. So far as I know, anyway -- anyone have a correction? If not, I'll move --Lquilter (talk) 23:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

According to the footnote, "The early Yiddish spelling, Fraye Arbayter Shtime, reflects the early 20th century fashion to Germanize certain Yiddish words. Over the years, the title had been changed to the native Yiddish pronunciation, פֿרייע אַרבעטער שטימע (Fraye Arbeter Shtime)". But this is a reference to the spelling in Yiddish orthography and pronunciation, not the English transliteration and title, which has always been Freie Arbeiter Stimme (see the masthead, which is from 1890, the year the newspaper was founded). I agree; the article should be moved. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 23:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh; I missed that footnote -- thanks, Malik. I figured it was something like that. Since that's the definitive answer, we now know it's covered by WP:MOS, so I'm going to move it put it on the list of things to move. ... I see there are templates already set up for that so I'll do those first. --Lquilter (talk) 15:01, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

• Page moved per the request at WP:RM and the above discussion. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 04:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
• Text edited to conform with the move. Tx ,GTBacchus & Malik Shabazz. --Lquilter (talk) 00:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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• Revisiting this after a decade of dormancy: "Fraye Arbeter Shtime" is the name most commonly used in sources, especially the academic sources that tend to cover this (esp. Avrich). "Freie Arbeiter Stimme" may be the official transliteration, and we can mark this, but in terms of identification, WP prefers to go with the name most recognizable (what most people will call it) and natural (reflecting what it's usually called), per the naming criteria (article titles policy), so I mainspaced my rewrite to the former name. Happy to discuss as needed czar 01:55, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

World War I

in Unruly Equality U.S. Anarchism in the Twentieth Century, Andrew Cornell 2016 page 35 says that this magazine supported Kropotkin view in the WW1 against the germans.

is it allowed to write it?Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 21:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Added from p. 57 czar 02:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

thank you Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 10:01, 12 February 2019 (UTC)