Talk:Frauenthal House (Little Rock, Arkansas)

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Requested move

Closed with revised Moves (to Frauenthal House (Little Rock, Arkansas) and Frauenthal House (Conway, Arkansas) done, and new dab page at Frauenthal House created. --do ncr am 19:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frauenthal House → Frauenthal House (Little Rock) – Suggest moving this page to the disambiged title and putting a disambiguation page at this title pointing to this and Frauenthal House (Conway). --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for opening this as a RM rather than moving this page without discussion. I observe you did already move "Fraunthal House" to "Frauenthal House (Conway)" already, however. You could have made a multiple page move request for the two moves, together, and I think that would have been less confusing here. Now clearly something needs to be done: either make the extra move requested explicitly by you, or undo your first move to get the Conway one back to Fraunthal House.

First could you please clarify in the article now at Frauenthal House (Conway) your source that the property in Conway, Arkansas is of name "Frauenthal House"? There are two sources in the article (the NRIS reference and the MPS document that is linked from the infobox) which establish that "Fraunthal House" is its name. Even if you have a different source naming it as "Frauenthal" rather than "Fraunthal", does that establish that the "Fraunthal" name is wrong? Perhaps you are establishing that there are two alternative names? I don't see a positive indication that Fraunthal is wrong. It is NOT merely a typo in the NRIS database; the MPS document shows Fraunthal clearly.

Second, even if the best wikipedia article names for both the Conway, Arkansas and Little Rock, Arkansas houses are established to be Frauenthal House + disambiguation, then the disambiguating phrases to use would be Frauenthal House (Conway, Arkansas), and Frauenthal House (Little Rock, Arkansas). It is not normal practice to use just (City) rather than (City, State) in U.S. disambiguation except for a few major cities like Chicago(whose city articles are the few that are of "City" rather than "City, State" format). Could you please indicate if you agree or disagree with this second point? --do ncr am 01:52, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have a problem with "(Conway, Arkansas)" and "(Little Rock, Arkansas)" -- I was going for the minimum-possible disambiguation.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:02, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that much. But, are you going to provide any reference that "Fraunthal House" in Little Rock is named anything else? The link in article to [1] this site just shows ads. --do ncr am 07:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Found and fixed the typo in the URL, but it wouldn't have mattered - there was enough information provided to verify the reference offline if needed. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for doing that. Seeing agreement and no objections, I am boldly implementing the necessary moves and closing this request. I updated the Little Rock one's article to state explicitly that "Fraunthal House" has been used as a name for the house (because that is in fact how it is named in the National Register and in the MPS document). Thanks for participating civilly. --do ncr am 19:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]