Talk:Frank Pick/GA1

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Reviewer: Eisfbnore ^talk 07:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

• The first sentence in the lead should state the obvious, so please recast it into something down the line of "Frank Pick was a British…", and then state his positions in the UERL and LPTB.
  • Done.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• The sentence "He steered the development of the London Underground's corporate identity by commissioning eye-catching commercial art and modern architecture and he led the organisation during the 1930s, its period of greatest success." is a bit heavy. I'd recommend breaking it up into two sentences, or at least removing the second "he".
  • Done.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• Why is the portal link to P:LT in the lead? I'd put it under "Notes".
  • Moved.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• The lead is generally a bit short, and also somewhat peacocky
  • Modified and expanded.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• The sentence "In 1906, Gibb was appointed managing director of the Underground Electric Railways Company of London (UERL) and took Pick with him" (emphasis mine) sounds a bit colloquial. What position did Pick have before becoming traffic development officer?
  • Rephrased.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
  • None of the sources actually say what his first role at the UERL was. As he was Gibb's assistant at the NER, I suspect that it was initially the same in their new posts.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• "The UERL was struggling financially" – Ditto. I'd try something like "…had financial problems".
  • Rephrased.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• Be consistent in whether you include commas after "By/In [year]".
  • Think they're all done.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• "…on an annual salary of £10,000 (approximately £530 thousand today)" – When is "today"? You can use the the {{As of}} template to state the year "today" is.
  • Not seen that template before, however, in this case, it is not necessary because {{Inflation}} updates automatically as new inflation data is added from its source. I have added a hidden note on this and rephrased slightly. --DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
    • I see that this problem has been solved quite well at today's TFA William Garrow, immediatly under "Legacy". --Eisfbnore ^talk 00:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
• "Pick was President of the Institute of Transport for 1931/32" – I'm not sure whether it is appropriate to use an oblique to separate the years. Perhaps swap "for" for "in" and use an unspaced endash between the years? "from 1931 to 1932" would also do, although that would make the following sentence a bit repititive.
  • The oblique is used in accordance with WP:SLASH because the appointment was for 12 months from 1 October 1931 to 30 September 1932. I avoided using "from 1931 to 1932" as it could be a period of from a few weeks to up to two years. In the case of the DIA presidency, the source does not give the appointment dates, just the years in this form, so it was presumably a three year period.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
• Page numbers for Orsini (2010) and Rose (1999)?
  • Orsini is an online source which does not have numbered pages, so I avoided using numbers.
  • Rose is a folded map in booklet form.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Overall, this is a very well-written and heavily sourced article on an interesting subject, so I'll pass it after the above comments have been resolved. Eisfbnore ^talk 07:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

• Many thanks, Just need to get Charles Holden through its FAC now and my set is complete.--DavidCane (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good, then all my comments seems to have been taken care of. As for FAC, I would recommend adding an infobox and perhaps a fair use image, and use the Barham biography as a source (hope it's still available). Eisfbnore ^talk 13:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)