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I was somewhat baffled by the use of tonneaux, which I only know as casks for aging wine, I went and looked at the Spanish, which is toneles. Google translates this as a cask also. I don't think it means tons --- there is another word for that. And yet it seems to be used as a capacity. But 50 to 450 is quite a jump in size. Unless it's a measure of supplies, but you'd expect the original to say "a ship with" not "a ship of" in that case. Ping me if you decipher this? Meanwhile, if I'm leaving it as a foreign-language word, I suppose I should use the Spanish one.
And yes, this is a translation of a translation. I do read Spanish a little and it looks like this was a word-for-word translation of the Spanish at one point -- the Spanish now has a few additional details -- but I don't feel comfortable translating anything but very simple articles from Spanish, for fear of missing nuances or misunderstanding idiom. If you have the skills to verify the translation, feel free to call it a translation from Spanish if you like.
Things I wondered: neither article has the name of the princess-regent. I've looked at a couple of adjoining articles, which don't mention it either. Will make another effort. Also, it's not clear whether the indigenous inhabitant came or was brought aboard, and I don't see either a San Francisco bay or a San Siméon bay, but my search on this last point has not been all that exhaustive. Elinruby (talk) 12:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
