Talk:Four Rugby Boys

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POV

This article is presenting a subject in a biased way. First of all, the article start with the suposedly 2002-uncovered published work, whereas the story of the 4 men was already largely published long before 2002. In addition, the rest of the article do not cite anymore this "uncover work", but uses other publications, often extracting pov, so as to present these 4 men in a poor way. I also wonder whether the form of the presentation is acceptable to wikipedia, and whether it should not be presented in four different biographies ( as here : nl:Ringang, nl:Möndro, nl:Kyibu II). I also personnaly see no reason why to keep this as a isolated article, and sugest to include this subject in Tibet (1912–1951) and Foreign_relations_of_Tibet#Relations_with_Britain, when neutrality issue is solved. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 18:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please find some other sources missing in which these four Tibetans contribution is positively considered :

Tibetan Community in Britain, A brief history of Tibetans in Britain
W. D. Shakabpa, Derek F. Maher, One hundred thousand moons, Volume 1
Charles Bell, Portrait of a Dalai Lama: the life and times of the great thirteenth

This, I think demonstrate that the current presentation is a biased POV. Frankly speaking, I am not surprised. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the sources mentioned right above are Exile or pro-independance sources and as such are quite politicized and not totally reliable (although they may contain factual information that could be drawn upon). Apart from Lhalu Tsewang Dorje, none of my sources (Alastair Lamb, Robert W. Ford, Alex McKay, Heinrich Harrer) are Chinese or pro-Chinese. The page does not deserve a neutrality tag just because you cannot reconcile yourself to the prevalent idea that the Rugby experiment was not a great success. --Elnon (talk) 01:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is exagereted, as explicited above : the first one is from the Tibetan Community in Britain, but the two others are from a Tibetan historian co-authored by Pr. Derek F. Maher, and american sclorar, while the last is from a british diplomat. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 14:49, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]