Talk:Fortissimus

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Concerns regarding POV/neutrality and lack of citations for recent section

The following section has been added by Athom1790:

The integrity of Fortissimus competition will be in question if it returns in 2011. Marcel Mostert, Christian Fennell and the rest of the IFSA organization (reopened as Champions League) ended its tenure in the Fall of 2007 by abandoning 25,000 pounds of equipment and burning dozens of athletes for over $100,000 American dollars in prize money when it held its last competition in Korea. The freight bill Marcel Mostert and Fennell abandoned totalled $63,000.00. There were tens of thousands of dollars also lost storing and transporting the four giant crates that had to be held by the Philadelphia-based freight forwarder for two years. The Philadelphia forwarder ended up shutting down one of his offices and laying off employees, some of who had been employed by the Philadelphia Freight forwarder for over 20 years. These same IFSA officals (several now with Champions League) and others from its executive staff and Board of Governors have entered shows such as The Arnold Classic and Fortissimus in the roles of officials. The integrity of these shows has been questioned in several circles since 2008. It has been questioned if these officials have used their role in Fortissimus to influence the outcome of the event and also to influence competitors who took part of the competition in Korea from joining the Federal Lawsuit. The process to file a Federal Lawsuit has started again in the Summer of 2010 and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is being notified of the problems with his strongman competition in Columbus Ohio.

Whilst I do not dispute that the article should contain reference to the issue I am concerned about the way it has been presented, i.e. that the facts are not being presented in a neutral way and I believe they violate Wikipedia’s rules on neutrality. The section is also written in an inflammatory way. I have removed the section twice stating that I think it ought to be rewritten from a neutral standpoint and that it should have citations. However, the edit has simply been replaced. In fairness, the talk page is the place to discuss this, hence I have begun this discussion. Similar edits by the same editor have been made on Strongman Champions League‎, Fortissimus‎ and Arnold Strongman Classic‎. Kwib (talk) 12:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With the intention of resolving the potential issues surrounding the above section and other articles, a centralised discussion has begun on the talk page of Athom1790.Kwib (talk) 22:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the section. I don't see how such a section can remain without citations and neutrality. Continuing the discussion where Kwib suggested. --Muhandes (talk) 06:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]