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Adding back two sources

Not true that Auria's parentage is "complete guesswork". Hypothesis by Antonio Rei, history professor at the Univ. of Coimbra. See his CV and some of his works. On Urraca, hypothesis by Salazar y Acha, author of many works as shown here. --Maragm (talk) 10:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is guesswork, based solely on the fact that Musa ibn Musa used the name for one daughter. Settipani presented three different possible placements for her. She is named in one historical document, and the only information it provides is: 1) her name was Oria; 2) she married Fortun; 3) the names of her children. Any placement of her, however it is dressed up in scholarly language, is guesswork and there is little to favor one hypothesis over another because the evidence is so scant. As to Urraca, we don't even know she was wife of Garcia, let alone mother of Fortun. Given that Salazar y Acha presents his theory as a hypothesis (note dotted line in chart) to begin with, and the flaws with that theory (neither name indicates what he suggests), there are valid reasons not give these speculated maternal origins on Fortun's page. 50.37.126.120 (talk) 13:42, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]