Talk:Forrest Galante

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Missing heading

I requested and was granted express permission of the copyright holder of the image uploaded to this page. The copyright holder is sending in permission directly to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org 4/1/19 Drsammyjohnson (talk) 20:10, 1 April 2019 (UTC)Drsammyjohnson[reply]

It looks as though Forrest previously had a page that was deleted in 2015. This page was written autonomously with new content by me. Please reach out if there are any issues.

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Questionable removals

Two sentences that cited criticism of Galante were removed three times from IPs near Galante's residence & Animal Planet offices. The source, Undark, does not attempt to appear neutral on the topic of its criticism, but does have editorial control on pieces published and cites significant figures in relevant fields on the topic. The sentence referencing the Galapagos episode in particular cites an extremely relevant source that was present at the filming.Especially considering much of the article reading like an advertisement, this does not seem like good-faith editing. The removals appear to be based on hiding criticism of Galante rather than removing unreliable or hidden-bias sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.45.1.106 (talk) 04:27, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why COI tag was removed here. Still reads like an advertisement. I think it should be added again. Sawitontwitter (talk) 16:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

“The source, Undark, does not attempt to appear neutral on the topic of its criticism” is the operative passage here. Wikipedia biographies are not the place for first-hand criticism. If a biography reads too much like an advertisement, neutralize the word choice. Inserting negative-slanted content to try and balance it out is just as inappropriate as content that’s overly positive. Respectfully, Undark pieces are definitively unfit for this article. There’s nothing ‘questionable’ about it. Ravenandadove (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Application for Protection

Bad-faith edits on this page have become a serious problem.

Galante is a wildlife biologist. It's been sourced multiple times. Stop removing it.

Galante is not a parachute scientist. He has been *accused* of being a parachute scientist. Stop writing it as a fact.

The editing war started by bad-faith editors of this page have made it impossible to maintain a consistent, neutral, and accurate biography of Forrest Galante. Editors with negative opinions of him (which is okay) have taken to editing his Wikipedia article with op-ed sources to justify blatantly negative passages about him (which is not okay). I've applied to have Forrest Galante's protected as a result of repeated edits which are very visibly made in bad-faith at best, and which are vandalism at worst. We're done making this article a venue for editors' own opinions. Even if the request is denied, let this be a notice to editors to be vigilant of bad-faith actors damaging this page. It has been a consistent problem lately. Ravenandadove (talk) 03:41, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is semi-protected through June 20th, 2024. I believe further protection may be warranted beyond that date, but for now this is a much-needed barrier against the erroneous or malicious editing this article has seen. Ravenandadove (talk) 18:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ravenandadove rather than requesting higher protection, this talk page right here is the place to discuss content disputes. Rather than accusing editors of bias or issuing unilateral ultimatums like We're done making this article a venue for editors' own opinions, please simply and clearly outline what you believe are the content issues in dispute and then give other editors time to discuss them with you here in order to seek consensus. Melcous (talk) 07:41, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How can you possibly say on your increased protection request [1] that 'Efforts to resolve the disputes on the Talk page have proven futile'?

Efforts to resolve the disputes haven't even started on the talk page here... Axad12 (talk) 09:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Wikipedia, there is the widely known problem of individuals who think by naming them in multiple job roles on here, that makes it true somehow, because they are running a personal brand. On one article on my watchlist, there is an article on individual who has written a book on Napolean, thinks that makes him historian. After a detailed discussion, it was decided he was a reality star and publicist. Every few weeks he comes in a tries to change it. He is desperate to be a historian. He might be yet. So it widely known problem of role promotion on WP. If this individual is a wildfire biologist, real evidence will need to seen to confirm that. On the article, a whole bunch of non-WP:V content that was sourced to social media plus a birthdate sourced to his own website was removed. None of that content is valid. Do not put it back, unless its backed up by a good WP:SECONDARY sources, not a social media or WP:SPS source. Melcous has it right as usual. She is always right. We can discuss any changes here, and seek consensus. Requesting extra article protection is not really the way forward. Seeking consensus for change is. I intend to examine the question of "wildlife biologist" in the next few days. scope_creep^Talk 09:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The improved protection request has now been declined [2]. Hopefully that will assist in attempts to move towards a consensus position on the current article content. Axad12 (talk) 13:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attempt to resolve content dispute

As an attempt to resolve the ongoing content dispute on this article I would suggest as follows:

The current version of the page (as per Melcous earlier today [3]) should be retained until consensus has been reached on any given point.
Good faith should be assumed of all contributors to the discussion.
All claims must be verifiable and sources cited must be in accordance with WP:RS.
It may be useful to make specific suggestions along the approximate lines of 'I would prefer to see this element of text (supply quote) replaced with (alternative text) due to (reason x), (and supply supporting evidence)'. Generalised comments about the article as a whole are probably less useful.

Hopefully the above points are all reasonable and will keep everything moving in the right direction until consensus is achieved. Axad12 (talk) 13:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2024

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Add a Podcast section above the Criticism section. He hosts a very popular podcast here: http://www.youtube.com/c/@WildTimesPod and here: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cbFBzf9sZFYFj5dCJykQR

Exact text to be added:

Podcast Forrest Galante is the host of The Wild Times Podcast where he and two friends talk about wildlife, animals, adventure, and conservation. Although educational, it is not a typical educational podcast, as the hosts mix in comedy and games as they discuss various wildlife and adventure topics. Featuring guests from the wildlife community such as Coyote Peterson, Bradley Trevor Grieve, Rob "Caveman" Alleva and Adam Thorn from the Kings of Pain television series, the Wild Times Podcast was started in March of 2020. The podcast is still airing new episodes as of 2024, and boasts a catalog of over 100 episodes, as well as dozens more uncensored episodes on their Patreon website called, "The Wild Times Underground." Retepretepretep (talk) 23:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Retepretepretep,

I'm afraid that your suggested wording is very adverty - but I'll put in a note that he started a podcast in 2020. :) Joe (talk) 12:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]