Talk:Forever Young (Bob Dylan song)
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Move discussion in progress
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Keats?
[edit]Bob says in his book, and in a song, that in NYC one day someone gave him a book by "an Italian poet from the 13th century" -- Petrarch? -- "and every one of them words rang true" -- so does anyone think, or know, whether Bob ever read Keats? --
More happy love! more happy, happy love! For ever warm and still to be enjoy'd, For ever panting, and for ever young; -- Ode on a Grecian Urn (1819)
Kessler (talk) 02:17, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Petrarch was 14th century. Dante was 13th century.Martindo (talk) 23:37, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Louisa Johnson
[edit]The article seems to have been hijacked by the Louisa Johnson entry. Because the excessive detail was only cited to Amazon and ITune sales pages, I've removed it. If someone thinks the single has had enough reviews and coverage to warrant it, they can create a separate article. After all, this article is about a number of covers of the same song and, sorry to say, when you factor-out the WP:RECENTISM all of them will be more notable than Louisa's. Sionk (talk) 14:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- We don't, according to WP:NSONGS, create articles for different versions of the same song.--Egghead06 (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Serious lack of WP:DUE WEIGHT when you look at the fraction of the page's content occupied by newbie Johnson. I've submitted this page for arbitration.Martindo (talk) 13:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
As an introduction, the only project I am a member of is Bob Dylan. That's my colours nailed firmly to the mast. I feel the article is about right now, the fluffery regarding the Louise Johnson has been removed, all the unnecessary and non-notable covers have also been removed and the article appears to be stable, although I am convinced that more detail can be added later. With that in mind I ask some questions
- Would the BD song, on its own, pass WP:NSONGS?
- Would more description of the LJ version benefit the article?
- Would DUE WEIGHT questions be better solved by adding more to the BD version?
- There are many articles with two or more infoboxes (Make You Feel My Love has 4), what makes this song so different?
- Isn't a hit recording from 2015 with a song written in 1974 something that is relevant to the article?
- Isn't there a shortage of information on the songs (as opposed marketing/commercial information) and the recordings of the songs?
- On a practical note, if this was two separate articles should still appear in all the same categories - twice? It's still a 1974 song, still written by BD, Still recorded by The Band (two category entries) etc.
No need to respond to me, unless you take issue with one of the questions, as far as I am concerned they are all rhetorical questions. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:00, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Until I came to this article I didn't even know who Louisa Johnson is. I don't think that she is that important to have her own section in the article? Shouldn't she just be listen in the cover versions section? Perhaps a Louisa Johnson fan put it there. Qewr4231 (talk) 06:13, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I agree that this page has been hijacked by Louisa Johnson. It's shameless and unnecessary self-promotion, piggybacking on Bob Dylan's fame and good name. She should put the details of her achievement, CD cover, etc. on her own page. Take a look at other recordings for Mr. Tambourine Man (another Bob Dylan song). It's a relatively simple list of the other versions, without undue promotion. All of the Louisa Johnson material should be removed, and replaced with a simple statement stating that it was recorded by her in 2015.
Added reference to the Parenthood TV Show
[edit]Forever Young was used as the theme song to the television show Parenthood. Cmberman2 (talk) 01:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)