Talk:Forest Reserve Act of 1891/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: DannyS712 (talk · contribs) 18:02, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Notes

• Passes criteria 6A and 6B since it has no images; not required
• line-by-line:
  • Lede: The Forest Reserve Act of 1891 is a law that allowed - tense change, should be either all past or all present tense
    • Changed it to be all in present tense.
  • Lede: set aside forest reserves from the land in the public domain - not sure Public domain is the right target to link to; that is for public domain in terms of copyright
    • Changed it to link to State ownership.
  • Lede: After it became known that there were abuses under the previous Timber Culture Act of 1873 that granted additional land to homesteaders agreeing to plant trees, many scientists joined with the American Forestry Association to advocate for stronger laws for the management of the nation's forest land. - became known to whom? what were the abuses? Who were the "many scientists"?
    • Changed it to After newspapers began to publicize the fraud and speculation under the previous Timber Culture Act of 1873 that granted additional land to homesteaders agreeing to plant trees, scientists of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) joined with the American Forestry Association to advocate for stronger laws for the management of the nation's forest land.
  • Background: Prior to passing the 1891 act, congress had been debating public land policy for more than two decades. - Congress should be capitalized
    • Done.
  • Background: as well as the blatant fraud that was occurring under existing homesteading policy - what was the fraud? What happened?
    • Added In 1873, Congress had passed the Timber Culture Act, which granted 160 acres (65 ha; 0.65 km²) of public land at no cost to anyone who agreed to plant and care for 40 acres of trees for a period of ten years. However, the new law had numerous loopholes that allowed non-residents to claim land for speculation purposes, and family members to give land to other family members to circumvent formal ownership and avoid taxation. with new reference.
  • I'm going to pause the line-by-line notes here - please review the article with an eye towards the issues noted above
• This appears to be a copyright violation of http://innovaciondocente.upct.es/the-forest-axt.html given the similarities, but since that page is undated I can't tell. That page is not listed as a source - was it used?
  • Greetings DannyS712, and thank you for your review so far. I agree with your comments, and I'll be making changes here shortly. In terms of the copyvio: I couldn't get earwig to work on that page, but the only line that I could see that would be a copyvio is "In total, Roosevelt would quadruple the nation's forest reserves from 50 million acres 200,000 km 2; 78,000 sq mi to nearly 200 million acres 810,000 km 2; 310,000 sq mi". I did not use this website, and I am pretty sure that is a scrape of our article, given that the above was my summary of the paragraph in the source listed: In the space of just ten years, Presidents McKinley, Cleveland, and Harrison had unilaterally reserved almost 50 million acres in forest reserves—equal to about 78,000 square miles, an area the size of the state of Nebraska. Yet nothing in these presidencies could have prepared the nation for what would come next. In seven and a half years in office, Theodore Roosevelt would unilaterally reserve almost 150 million acres of forest land, and area larger than the state of... and it cuts off there. I'd be downright shocked if we both came up with the same wording. CThomas³ (talk) 00:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

    I should also say that the purported copyvio page copies exactly the text used in the output of the convert template. CThomas³ (talk) 00:13, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

    @Cthomas3: in that case, I'll AGF that its a backwards copy DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

    Does that website's text seem to change for you too? Now I look at it and there's quite a bit of the article copied there, individual sentences interspersed with other unrelated sentences. How weird. CThomas³ (talk) 01:19, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Greetings DannyS712, I hope all is going well. I've done my best to address your concerns above; let me know if there is anything else you wish me to take a look at. Thanks! CThomas³ (talk) 03:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Cthomas3: Thanks for the ping.  looking... DannyS712 (talk) 03:15, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I read through the article again. To me, it now appears to pass all of the criteria. Congrats --DannyS712 (talk) 03:56, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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