Talk:Flying Fathers
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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- ... that the original Flying Fathers ice hockey team consisted of player priests with a horse as a backup goaltender? Source: "And then, there was the team’s backup goalies: two horses named Patience and Penance." ('Praying And Playing': The Story Of The Flying Fathers)
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5x expanded by Mindmatrix (talk). Self-nominated at 01:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC).
- Comment: I realize it's late for this (or extremely early for 2022), but there's lots of potential April Fools Day DYK material in this article. Mindmatrix 01:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nominating on March 30 is way too late for April Fools' Day, and way too early for the next one. Article is a 5x expansion and has citations throughout. The hook fact is interesting, and in the article, cited inline. The QPQ completed. That's the good news. The bad news is that Earwig found close paraphrasing of this article.
Several sentences are lifted straight from it.– Muboshgu (talk) 02:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC) - I looked a little bit deeper, and the plot thickens. Mindmatrix is not responsible for the text in question. Bearcat created this article in 2005[1], and the SB Nation article lifted those sentences in 2019. The text that Mindmatrix added looks to be clean. I think we have to rewrite that
offendingcopied text, though. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: I don't think Wikipedians should have to rewrite text in articles copied from this site onto other sites. In fact, in the case of this article indicated above, the responsibility lies with the external site to clearly indicate that the text has been copied from Wikipedia, per WP's licence terms. That site has failed to do so, and is violating copyright. We are under no obligation to change any text here. (BTW: I object to the statement that the text that was copied is "offending text"; the offense has occurred offsite, not on WP.) Mindmatrix 22:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- You're right about Wiki licensing terms, and there is no rule that says you have to make any changes due to other people's copying us. I had just thought it would be a good idea. And I meant no offense calling it "offending text". As I said, you didn't plagiarize anything. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:56, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- No worries; I understood what you meant. Mindmatrix 01:06, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Nominating on March 30 is way too late for April Fools' Day, and way too early for the next one. Article is a 5x expansion and has citations throughout. The hook fact is interesting, and in the article, cited inline. The QPQ completed. That's the good news. The bad news is that Earwig found close paraphrasing of this article.
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