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I have compared the article and the supposed source, and I am bewildered as to how anyone can think this is a copyvio. Can either MLauba or someone else explain? JamesBWatson (talk) 00:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While the virtual ink is spilling all over the place now, here are my concerns:
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On September 5, 1915, the first baptism was held for new adherents of Christianity. In 1938 it was restored and became the only chapel with granite structure in Fuzhou City. TheShang You Tangat that time possessed classical, elegant style, with a flower hall and a fishpond. In order to deepen the impact of Christianity on the society,Shang You Tangfounded the Jinde School, which was engaged in teaching of modern culture and served as the preparatory school for He Ling Anglo-Chinese College. Then the school was changed into the Jinde Girls Middle School and set up the Jin De Kindergarten. During the Anti-Japanese War, all school activities came to an end. In 1949, the China Church terminated the relationship with foreign churches and no more services were conducted during the Cultural Revolution. On October 28, 1979, the Flower Lane Church restored its religious service and became the first church in Fuzhou that performed the regular service after the Cultural Revolution.

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On 5 September 1915, the first baptism was held for new adherents of this church. In 1938, Siông-iū Dòng was reconstructed into the only granite structured church in Fuzhou, possessing a classical and elegant style, with a flower hall and a fishpond in the interior. In the Republic of China Era, Siông-iū Dòng founded the Céng-dáik School (进德学校), which was engaged in teaching of modern culture and served as the preparatory school for the Hŏk-lìng Anglo-Chinese College (鹤龄英华中学). The school was afterwards changed to Céng-dáik Girls' Middle School (进德女中) with a kindergarten, but all school activities were put to an end during the Japanese Occupation in the 1940s. After the communists' takeover of Mainland China in 1949, the Chinese Church had to break off relations with foreign missions, and all church activities were strictly forbidden during the Cultural Revolution. On October 28 1979, Siông-iū Dòng restored its religious activities and became the first church in Fuzhou that provided the regular service after the Cultural Revolution, with its name changed to Flower Lane Church, after the street name of its location.

In addition to that, the structure of our article follows the source extremely closely.
The real problem here is that while the main article contributor has made several good efforts to paraphrase, we're looking at a copy / paste which was subsequently modified. The result is still very recognizable. The safest way would be to forget that there is a copy / paste function available in the first place and just write in a totally independent manner. Is it easy to do? Not with one single source, I agree. Still, it is unfortunately the only safe way.
Hope this clarifies my worries here. Best, MLauba (talk) 08:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is much clearer. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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