Talk:Flag of Shropshire

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Image - wrong colours

That image cannot be right; the arms of Shropshire CC have no white in them; they are erminois on each of three piles azure, two issuant from chief and one from base, a leopard's face. Erminois is gold ermine, not white. If the Flag Institute has registered a white version, fair enough, but no image of the approved flag design yet appears on the UK Flag Registry. Hogweard (talk) 15:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about the ermine being gold/amber in the Shropshire CC coat of arms... but the (modern) flag version definitely uses white. I've seen it! (And just to add: although a traditionalist, I do like the white ermine version - it detracts less from the amber/gold loggerheads.) David (talk) 18:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've just seen Graham Bartram's guide to the flags used at the Diamond Jubilee Thames Pageant, and amongst them all he has included county flags, aware no doubt that some of the boats would be wearing them. The Shropshire flag may not have been seen on the water but it is listed

The design (which uses erminois not ermine) looks very striking.

If we can get a good SVG of a loggerhead, I could do an SVG version. Hogweard (talk) 07:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, interesting - we'll have to wait and see which (gold or white) has been registered. Certainly the flags I've seen use the white version. (Eg. see the photo of the flag flown at the DCLG building in London last year... albeit using rather rubbish looking loggerheads!) David (talk) 12:41, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coincidentally, I saw that one at the DLCG, on one of my very rare visits to that part of the world. I'll do an SVG version of the Graham Bartram pattern in the next day or two, but having spent an evening trying to reproduce it, I am all loggerheaded out. I just have to do the ermine patterns. Hogweard (talk) 19:56, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What are the bets now that the white version has been registered? ;) David (talk) 22:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it has been, I will be embarrassed and will recolour the flag. However, the erminois version is in the Flag Institute's guide to Flags at the Jubilee Thames Pageant. The guide was written by Graham Bartram of the Flag Institute and he is in charge of registration too. I copied the pattern of the flag from the Guide. (Gratifyingly, it has already appeared on Wikishire too.) Hogweard (talk) 06:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The flag has now appeared on the UK Flag Register here. It is indeed erminois not ermine, though I did not get the colours quite right (there is only one shade of yellow and the blue was a little different) so I will upload a replacement file. Hogweard (talk) 20:31, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - good to see Shropshire now has an official flag. David (talk) 15:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The bizarre thing is that although I uploaded a new version, with just one shade of yellow instead of three, the old one still appears here. Even on Commons, the screen shows the old one until you click on the image (producing the "upload" screen, where the new one appears). I tried putting showing the file on an independent wiki which draws images from Commons, and the old version appeared there too. The new image must be in a twilight zone somewhere. I don't know if it would do any good to upload it yet again. Hogweard (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems OK now. Looking at the history on Commons, the last two uploads now appear to be the same! Owain (talk) 13:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]